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发表于 2012-8-13 02:46 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


Paul Ryan 被Mitt Romney选为竞选伙伴,华尔街正在改变策略,提前布局。

"The most important development is that this pick makes it unlikely that Romney can win Florida because of the anxiety Ryan generates among senior citizens over Medicare," he added. "If Romney can't win Florida, he can't win the presidency."
发表于 2012-8-13 02:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2012-8-13 03:46 PM
Paul Ryan 被Mitt Romney选为竞选伙伴,华尔街正在改变策略,提前布局。

"The most important developme ...

O8 may be kicked away by WS....

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6th-Sense 发表于 2012-8-13 03:58 PM
O8 may be kicked away by WS....

Then the market will dive hard soon.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-13 03:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
Wall Street's Big Concern: Can Ryan Help Romney Win?  (ZT)

Wall Street's reaction to Paul Ryan's place on the presidential ticket may well depend on Main Street's response — namely, whether the Wisconsin congressman can help Mitt Romney win the election.

Chatter around the financial markets Sunday and Monday indicated a dichotomy: Investment pros almost unanimously like the firebrand vice presidential nominee, but they're not as sure that he'll help the Republicans unseat President Obama.

With so much of the Street's money flowing to Romney, the stakes in him getting elected are huge.

"The whole election has been transformed overnight. Instead of focusing on Barack Obama's mediocre performance on the economy, the election now may be a referendum on the Paul Ryan budget," said Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Potomac Research Group in Washington. "The Paul Ryan budget polls very poorly."


Valliere worries that while the message of fiscal responsibility is a positive one, the timing may not be right for someone as aggressively reform-minded as Ryan.

"The most important development is that this pick makes it unlikely that Romney can win Florida because of the anxiety Ryan generates among senior citizens over Medicare," he added. "If Romney can't win Florida, he can't win the presidency."

That could be troubling for the financial world, which, according to the most recent figures from the Center for Responsive Politics, has given twice as much in donations to Romney than Obama.

That the Ryan plan both has bipartisan support and would not affect anyone currently on Medicare or within 10 years of retirement age may not matter if the White House political machine can scare voters into thinking the program won't be there when they retire.

"I fully agree that we need to have an adult conversation on entitlements," Valliere said. "But just looking at the Electoral College map, this is very risky."

Or, as another strategist working for a major firm, speaking on condition of anonymity, more succinctly stated, "When all is said and done, does this help the Republican ticket?

"They're fascinated by this," the strategist said of Wall Street chatter over Ryan. "Their view is this is the most brilliant election move ever and will put him over the top, or it will be Palinesque," a reference to 2008 GOP nominee John McCain's ultimately disastrous selection of then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for the No. 2 slot on the ticket.

Dennis Gartman, a hedge fund manager and author of the widely followed Gartman Letter, put himself in the brilliant-selection camp, even though he was rooting for former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Calling Ryan "the rare individual with absolute mastery of the vastness of the US budget" and said Ryan's fiscal conservatism and desire to reform Washington's reckless spending "may actually resonate with younger voters who now see these programs as assaults upon their own future, fiscal well-being."

But there were concerns that stretched beyond Medicare.

Nomura Securities economist Lewis Alexander said the Ryan nomination sends a message that a Romney administration would be aggressive in attacking issues surrounding the "fiscal cliff," Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's term for the slew of tax increases and spending cuts that will take place automatically in 2013 if Congress does not reach deficit-reduction targets.

"This choice, and its impact on the content of the campaign, is likely to reinforce political support for fiscal consolidation. This suggests that the policy debates that will come after the election may generate a more front-loaded fiscal consolidation than previously expected," Alexander said in a note to clients.

"Both of these factors may be a headwind for risky assets in coming months," he added. "In effect, with this choice concerns about the 'fiscal cliff' may affect markets somewhat sooner than we had earlier thought.

The stock market sold off Monday morning, though the losses were attributed primarily to yet more evidence of global economic slowing.

Still, Morgan Stanley chief strategist Adam S. Parker recently said the summer stock market rally, of which he is suspect, may have been driven by pricing in a Romney victory.

So was Monday's slump a retracement of that move?

Intrade, a website where investors can put money on expected outcomes of various events, moved only marginally to the Romney side following the Ryan announcement, still giving Obama a 58 percent likelihood of re-election.

The election, of course, remains three months away, so Romney backers in the financial markets are far from conceding anything to the president.

Gartman praised Romney for a selection that signaled his "intention of moving the campaign along toward serious budgetary and business considerations."

"Wisconsin is not a 'swing state,'" Gartman observed in analyzing the political calculus of the choice. "Rather, Mr. Ryan was chosen for his budget acumen, and this we think quite wise."
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发表于 2012-8-13 04:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
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6th-Sense 发表于 2012-8-13 02:58 PM
O8 may be kicked away by WS....

O8连任应该没有问题,我觉得哈,一般连任的机率高。
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发表于 2012-8-13 04:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2012-8-13 05:08 PM
O8连任应该没有问题,我觉得哈,一般连任的机率高。

现在美国这边JOBLESS 8.3%。。。历史上当失业超过>8% 是很少有重新当选的除战争时期, 就看后面几个月08用啥来把JOB 数据造的好看点; 上一次选, WS 给O8的经费大大高过对手。。。今次, 前不久是低于对手的, 最近没看。。。WS 肯定不喜好08 再选。

至于美国民众。。。小布都能上, 08 同志或优或优真还有点可能勒。。。
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发表于 2012-8-13 04:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
偶的第6感,O8要完蛋!!!一班来讲偶的第6感很强很准,,,不信不解释!
股市将要先跌后涨。。。。
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发表于 2012-8-13 04:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
喜欢热闹 发表于 2012-8-13 05:35 PM
偶的第6感,O8要完蛋!!!一班来讲偶的第6感很强很准,,,不信不解释!
股市将要先跌后涨。。。 ...

"先跌后涨"

Dive before election, and go up after that?
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发表于 2012-8-13 04:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
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震荡调整出一定空间,,,10月中,选举差不多有眉目了,Romney有希望了,就可以涨了,,,否则,从现在开始涨到年底,O8胜出,,太可怕了!
纯属瞎想,您别当真,,,我那第6感是开玩笑说的,



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发表于 2012-8-13 05:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
不喜欢只想着给富人减税的家伙
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发表于 2012-8-13 05:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
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介个问题要这样看,,,,中美两国情况不同,中国政府应该济贫杀富,因为中国的穷人不是因为懒。
但是,美国就不一样了,美国的穷人是因为懒,不愿意出来劳动,就想国家养着他们,中产及富人交的税就养成这些人越发好吃懒做,偶个人极度不喜欢这个国家的对穷人的福利制度。   


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完全赞同...  发表于 2012-8-14 01:05 PM
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-13 05:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
喜欢热闹 发表于 2012-8-13 03:52 PM
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震荡调整出一定空间,,,10月中,选举差不多有眉目了,Romney有希望了,就可以涨了,,, ...

这个我以前分析过。

选前涨对OB有利,选前跌对ROMNEY有利,如果ROMNEY赢,有圣诞RALLY(补涨)。不管谁赢,政经大局面不会改变。今年的高点应在1500以上,明年定有20%的调整。
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发表于 2012-8-13 05:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2012-8-13 06:21 PM
这个我以前分析过。

选前涨对OB有利,选前跌对ROMNEY有利,如果ROMNEY赢,有圣诞RALLY(补涨)。不管谁 ...

学游,花街把死皮拉到1500目的何在呢?出货?可是现在越涨越没量,谁来接盘?
俺也看出来,股市现在很难跌下去,但现在涨上去,对MM来说是亏本的买卖啊

昨天看Bloomberg,6月底以来的这波涨势主要是空头covering,估计空头cover也差不多了,还有谁买了?
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-13 05:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ctcld 于 2012-8-13 04:42 PM 编辑
google 发表于 2012-8-13 04:31 PM
学游,花街把死皮拉到1500目的何在呢?出货?可是现在越涨越没量,谁来接盘?
俺也看出来,股市现在很难 ...


涨出空间是为了明年的调整。1500不过分,P/E连15%都不到。

昨天还有一报道就是“全球资金不断流入美国“
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB ... mod=wsj_share_tweet

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发表于 2012-8-13 05:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2012-8-13 06:41 PM
涨出空间是为了明年的调整。1500不过分,P/E连15%都不到。

昨天还有一报道就是“全球资金不断流入美 ...

钱进美国不代表钱进股市,死皮1400了,TLT还在$125,看样子已经见底,又要反弹了

量这么小,MM往上拉,遇到的都是卖盘,根本就没有多少买盘
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-13 05:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
google 发表于 2012-8-13 04:48 PM
钱进美国不代表钱进股市,死皮1400了,TLT还在$125,看样子已经见底,又要反弹了

量这么小,MM往上拉, ...

无量上涨才对。要不怎叫挤呢?
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发表于 2012-8-13 06:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
“历史上当失业超过>8% 是很少有重新当选的除战争时期。。。”--政治的TA分析!强!
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