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[灌水] Nobody will ever short again

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发表于 2011-10-27 09:58 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


本帖最后由 janez 于 2011-10-27 23:00 编辑

A trade twittered this as a humor. It somehow resonated with me. (Not that I will give up shorting. But still it hit me, impressed me somehow).
So put it here.

Trading against trend is hard.
发表于 2011-10-27 10:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 csw2002 于 2011-10-27 23:10 编辑

I will short - when the time is right. It's not time yet. We have witnessed the momentum high of the current rally and the price high of this rally will follow. I will wait for a mature consolidation region to form. If I see a false breakout and quick reversal of the range, or a second high with divergent momentum, with accompanying extremely bullish sentiment (by way of VIX falling below 20, and CPC falling below 0.65), I will get short and add to my short when the price exits the consolidation region on the bottom.

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发表于 2011-10-27 10:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
csw2002 发表于 2011-10-27 23:07
I will short - when the time is right. It's not time yet. We have witnessed the momentum high of the ...

如果下面有个顶的话,我猜VIX不会低于20

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Not if we make a new high :)  发表于 2011-10-27 10:19 PM
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-27 10:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
csw2002 发表于 2011-10-27 23:07
I will short - when the time is right. It's not time yet. We have witnessed the momentum high of the ...

Nice strategy!

Oh, btw. I looked very hard everywhere today for negative divergence. could not find any.  
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发表于 2011-10-27 10:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
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No negative divergence yet - which is why I said we have probably had momentum peak of the current rally - meaning momentum has been accompanying this rally. I expect price to continue higher accompanied with increasingly less momentum and eventually a price high with little momentum - then it's time to get short.
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发表于 2011-10-27 10:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
一般来说,觉得很痛的时候,转折点就快到了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-27 11:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
Fig 发表于 2011-10-27 23:30
一般来说,觉得很痛的时候,转折点就快到了。

Or maybe the pain isn't big enough yet
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发表于 2011-10-27 11:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
If a down trend starts, I prefer to go Bear ETF (FAZ, TZA, SDS...) to avoid stresses by

1. short position, margin calls. Any margin calls make me stresses, frankly.
2. puts position. time value. It's not uncommon that you anticipate correctly but you die before the day comes. any options have time value.

3x ETF is consumptive. But much better than above issues, IMO.
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发表于 2011-10-28 08:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
csw2002 发表于 2011-10-27 23:07
I will short - when the time is right. It's not time yet. We have witnessed the momentum high of the ...

SP 如果今年NEW HIGH,那油价要过百,2012年就会是2008年的翻版
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