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 楼主| 发表于 2010-7-12 09:13 PM | 显示全部楼层


本帖最后由 爱在雨中 于 2010-7-12 23:26 编辑
光看BDI不够,要加上集装箱的成品输运指数
AGA7d 发表于 2010-7-12 23:06


棋圣说的是。

集装箱的指数图我就不加了,情况跟上次update的差不多,仍然是爆仓状态,但是也仍然面临新的大船下水的压力。
具体说就是,货主一直在被迫付出高运价,同时期盼着新的大船下水缓解目前状况,
而船东一方面采取挤压策略迫使货主习惯高运价,一方面私下也都不清楚新的大船下水后会不会出现价格瀑布。

目前的状况类似于2008年7月之前的原油市场,呵呵,没人高位接盘,原油价格就是不下来,
但是,现货运输市场毕竟不同于paper market,时间对于双方都不是朋友。
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发表于 2010-7-12 09:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
BDI       1840     -62 -3.370%

BDI has dropped from above 4000 to 1840 now
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发表于 2010-7-12 09:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
Baltic Dry Index Down, Container Freight Rates Up, What’s Going On?

by stuart on July 6, 2010

Although it is not unheard of, it is a little bizarre that freight rates for bulk cargoes have been on a yearlong downward trend while container rates are rising strongly. True they cater to different sectors of the market, the first to raw materials like iron ore, coal and agricultural products, whereas the container market is more sensitive to semi or finished goods but shipping rates in general are often taken as a measure of the global economy so what’s going on?

Dry bulk rates rebounded from record lows seen in late 2008 at the height of the economic crisis. Average earnings at that time for the larger capsize vessels plummeted to just over US$2,000 per day according to a Reuters article. Last week, those same size vessels were earning over US$24,000 a day but the peak was reached last year (since then the rates have declined). The Baltic Dry Freight Index illustrates the point well. In May of 2008, BDI hit its record high ever, 11,700 points. From there it began its steep fall starting in mid-July. By Dec.5, 2008 it had slumped to 663 pts, a record low. But by November, 2009 the BDI had recovered to 4661 pts. As of July 1 this year, the Baltic Dry Freight Index had settled to 2351 pts, 55 down from June 30.  So what caused the collapse over a period in which all we have heard is the strength of China’s growth and the country sucking in raw materials? Well the reason the BDI is taken as such a bell-weather of the global economy is because it reflects rates being paid for cargoes shipped. There are fears that demand in China is showing early signs of cooling and mills, well stocked with raw material, are slowing purchases reducing the demand for imports. Coal and iron ore alone make up 54% of all dry goods shipped and China is the largest seaborne trade destination so the country is crucial in driving the Index. At the same time, like the super tankers they run the shipping industry has a backlog of new vessels commissioned years ago which have been coming off the slipways and into service just as the recovery appears to falter. The resulting over capacity was described in a Business Week article as freight demand increasing by the equivalent of 634 vessels this year while supply has expanded by 1,110 ships. What we are seeing is an over supply of shipping space rather than a dramatically slowing global economy.

The container market on the other hand is going in the other direction. The major Taiwanese shipping line Evergreen Marine Corp. said late last week it is raising its shipping rates on its European routes and will add surcharges during the current peak season amid strong demand. Announcing rate increases on its Europe-Mediterranean westward routes from July 1 of US$250 per twenty-foot equivalent unit (TEU), and a peak season surcharge of US$300 per TEU with effect from July 18. The shipping line is taking a bullish tone explaining the increases on strong demand for container space but Nils Smedegaard Andersen the chief executive of A.P. Moeller-Maersk is quoted in a Reuters article as saying the increase in container freight rates is the result of a shortage of shipping containers, not a booming global economy. The level of demand and the availability of space are absolutely two distinct matters he said. During the last 19 months, container shipping companies didn’t order any containers. “Now the economy has picked up and that leaves us with a shortage of the containers. We hope at best for a slow recovery. We are not optimistic.”

So all is not as it first seems. Bulk cargo rates are falling more because of vessel supply than a sharp decline in trade while container traffic rates are rising more because of a shortage of containers than a booming finished goods market. Not surprisingly the recovery continues to be a rocky road even if so far it appears to be heading more or less in the right direction.

–Stuart Burns
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发表于 2010-7-12 09:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
指数反映价格,但价格由供需决定,所以光看价格还不能确定需求情况。

这些指数从一个侧面反映经济现状,属于MACRO里,但公司盈利不光由MACRO决定,所以要清醒地
认识到它的局限。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-7-12 09:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
    while container traffic rates are rising more because of a shortage of containers than a booming finished goods market.  AGA7d 发表于 2010-7-12 23:31


这个观点我是不认同的,原因上面我写了。当然,欢迎不同观点,百花齐放才是春。
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发表于 2010-7-12 09:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
有没有集装箱船运公司的ticker呀?谢谢。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-7-13 12:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
有没有集装箱船运公司的ticker呀?谢谢。
jiangnanhao 发表于 2010-7-12 23:59


说实话,我还真不太清楚。我对集装箱船公司不怎么感兴趣。
从长远角度看,集装箱船公司发展前景堪忧,远不如drybulk公司弹性好。
可以问问对美国股市了解更多的各位老大,应该会有你满意的答案   
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发表于 2010-7-13 09:10 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 47# 爱在雨中

Thank you very much!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-7-15 05:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
Update:

There has been a noticeable decrease in the number of Capesizes waiting to berth at iron ore ports in Australia, Brazil and China as well as Australia’s coal terminals. From a combined total of 157 at the beginning of the year and 145 in early June, the current tally is 106.

如果只是矿砂泊位的情况如此,对未来形势缓解还值得期待。可是,在现在夏季用电高峰时,煤炭码头的待泊船舶数量也在减少,那么,只能说,压力没有缓解,形势更加严峻了。
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