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[技术分析] 标普500的明确进入夺命浪区

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发表于 2010-6-26 07:34 AM | 显示全部楼层



It is clearly on Xing's chart: It is a LEADING, not an ENDING.
A LEADING diagonal MUST be in an impulsive wave 1.

Note: Nstar has never finished even one page of EW book, just copy & paste.

谢谢星大的资料。
4浪进入1浪,这在上证指数与香港恒指上皆有发生,这种多重浪在我学习的EW理论20周 ...
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发表于 2010-6-26 07:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
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Elliot Wave predicts triple-digit Dow in 2016
Commentary: If you think things are bad now...

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- An investment letter that called the Crash of 2008 said that this would be a bad year -- and it now says it will get worse.

A whole generation of investors think that Robert Prechter and his Elliott Wave Theory letters, Elliott Wave Financial Forecasts and Elliott Wave Theorist, are permabears. And they've certainly seemed that way for the last decade -- although it should be noted that the stock market is now roughly back where it started. ( See April 26, 2002 column.)

But Prechter was very bullish after the 1974 low and, briefly, after being one of the very few services to make money in 2008. Then he announced that "2010 is the year when the bear market in stocks returns in full force." ( See Jan. 22 column.)

Elliott Wave Financial Forecasts (EWFF) makes recommendations specific enough to be tracked by the Hulbert Financial Digest. (The Elliott Wave Theorist is too, well, theoretical.)

Over the year to date, EWFF is up just 0.4% by Hulbert Financial Digest count through May vs. negative 0.3% for the dividend-reinvested Wilshire 5000 Total Stock Market Index.

Over the past 12 months, its bearishness did cause it to gain just 4.75% compared to 22.89% for the total return Wilshire 5000. But over the past three years, the letter's bearishness paid off handsomely. It's up an annualized 5.25% against negative 8.12% annualized for the total return Wilshire 5000.

And even over the past 10 years, so badly damaged have stocks been that the letter was up an annualized 1.05%, outperforming a mere 0.22% annualized gain for the Wilshire 5000.

The EWFF issue published in early May said flatly: "The topping process is over for the countertrend rally that started in the first quarter of 2009. The next leg lower that commenced in April should now deliver a decline that will ultimately be bigger than the 2007-2009 sell-off. ... Gold poked to a new high, but in doing so, likely completed a pattern in mid-May that will lead to a multi-month selloff. ... The U.S. dollar index /quotes/comstock/11j!i:dxy0 (DXY 85.31, -0.42, -0.49%) is fulfilling EWFF's forecast for a strong advance."

All of which fits right into Prechter's repeated predictions of a massive coming deflation.

In a rare comment on individual stocks, EWFF says: "Google Inc. /quotes/comstock/15*!goog/quotes/nls/goog (GOOG 472.68, -2.42, -0.51%) made its countertrend rally on Jan. 4, four months before the DJIA and Nasdaq, and appears to be locked in a decline the EWFF also forecast last August. Its early reversal is a bearish development for the broad market, as Google is an icon of the last great stock craze. The failure of its stock price to reignite is a clear sign that the animal spirits of the old bull market are all but gone."

How bad? The clearest statement comes from the Elliott Wave Theorist, discussing a numerological technical theory with which it supplements the Wave Theory's complex patterns: "The only way for the developing configuration to satisfy a perfect set of Fibonacci time relationships is for the stock market to fall over the next six years and bottom in 2016."

"Stock market bulls and most economists think that a new bull market and economic recovery are underway. Most bears are looking for either a long sideways bear market à la 1966-1982, or a hyperinflationary run to infinity. Our Elliott Wave outlook opposes both of these scenarios. The most likely profile is a stock market crash of historic proportions."

Elliott Wave Theorist offers several reasons, including: "This bear market is of Supercycle degree, the biggest since 1720-1784. It should therefore include a decline deeper that the 89% decline of 1929-1932. A decline of 91.5% or more would carry it below 1,000."

There will be a short-term rally at some point, thinks Prechter, but it will be a trap: "The 7.25-year and 20-year cycles are both scheduled to top in 2012, suggesting that 2012 will mark the last vestiges of self-destructive hope. Then the final years of decline will usher in capitulation and finally despair."
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发表于 2010-6-26 07:45 AM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢星大的资料。
4浪进入1浪,这在上证指数与香港恒指上皆有发生,这种多重浪在我学习的EW理论20周 ...
大牛Steve 发表于 2010-6-26 09:20



大牛兄太客气了,

这个跟Ending diagonal是有区别的,上面的资料里涉及了。

关于你“是否能放在大1浪”的疑问,leading diagonal上一次经典的应用就是在大顶1浪i(10 Oct. 2007 -26 Oct. 2007)中出现的,你感兴趣的话可以回顾下。当然,目前这个leading diagonal的数法比较有争议,但正确与否下个星期应该就会有结果。

目前仍然有一部分铁牛相信市场会重复Aug.-Oct. 07 (如下图),对此我只能说,可能性有,但比较低...

PS 做交易说白了是概率游戏,咱们应该考虑各种可能性。


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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-26 07:49 AM | 显示全部楼层
好的,我会花时间仔细学习的,再次感谢星大!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-26 08:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 大牛Steve 于 2010-6-26 10:53 编辑

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1.是的,4浪进入了1浪区,不过进入不多。
2.从星大的图上看,50天SMA穿越100天SMA了,穿越200天SMA也快敲定了。

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发表于 2010-6-26 08:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
夺命浪能跌多少?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-26 08:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
夺命浪能跌多少?
brcm 发表于 2010-6-26 10:04

S&P500去到650!
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发表于 2010-6-26 08:22 AM | 显示全部楼层
Look at Xing's chart: In Aug. - Oct. 2007, when the death cross occurred, the sma 200 was still pointing up. So it' easier that golden cross occurred shortly. Now sma 200 is flat and sma 50 is pointing down with steep curve.  Once the death cross occurrs, it's difficult to reverse., unless there is a super strong rebound. What would be the catalyst for a possible strong rebound? QE? super strong ER? China's policy change?
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发表于 2010-6-26 08:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
S&P500去到650!
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........650得明年吧。。。。。。。难道你认为几个月内会跌的这么惨?..........虽然7月会非常有趣。。。。但650貌似还需要多一些时间。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-26 08:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 30# brcm
那是以后的事了,走一步算一步吧,扯太远没意思。
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发表于 2010-6-26 08:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
Xing, this news justified your observation on Friday; Market is really speculating QE. Just look at sky rocketing metal price.
http://www.hutong9.net/viewthrea ... &extra=page%3D1
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发表于 2010-6-26 10:38 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-6-26 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-6-26 01:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
Xing, this news justified your observation on Friday; Market is really speculating QE. Just look at  ...
like2swing 发表于 2010-6-26 10:41



谢谢分享,

PS 周末就不要用功了,好好享受放松一下吧,祝你及家人周末愉快。

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发表于 2010-6-26 01:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
好的,我会花时间仔细学习的,再次感谢星大!
大牛Steve 发表于 2010-6-26 09:49



大牛同学,你就别总跟我这么客气了...

祝你跟家人周末愉快。
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发表于 2010-6-26 01:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
S&P500去到650!
大牛Steve 发表于 2010-6-26 10:11


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发表于 2010-6-26 01:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 nstar 于 2010-6-26 15:54 编辑

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发表于 2010-6-26 03:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 1# 大牛Steve
你上周怎么没这样说呢?太晚啦。
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发表于 2010-6-26 03:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
ding. thanks.
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