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发表于 2010-6-5 05:44 AM | 显示全部楼层


欧盟为了支持这些国家尽快进入欧元区,专门有一项发展支持资金,
alex68 发表于 2010-6-5 06:46



    看你提到发展支持资金,突然想到,德国今年还有2750万欧元的对中国的技术援助。 对中国的发展援助也就是今年刚刚停止而已,2009年都还有。

http://news.qq.com/a/20091101/000885.htm

德国政府将停止对华发展援助 称中国不再需要
http://news.QQ.com  2009年11月01日12:05   环球网-环球时报  张铭  我要评论(0)

环球时报特约记者张铭报道 10月30日,德国联邦经济合作部发布消息称,德国政府将停止对中国的发展援助,认为中国已不再需要。该举措立刻引起争论,被批评为“错误做法”且会引来“严重后果”。

埃菲社10月30日报道,当天德国经济合作部一名发言人称,今年的预算中没有包括向中国提供任何金融援助,只有上届政府通过的2750万欧元的技术援助。“当然,将继续遵守已经作出的承诺,但不会再与中国通过新的经济合作项目。”

德国《图片报》10月30日报道,新任经济合作部长迪尔克。尼贝尔对《图片报》说,德国必须集中自己的资金,有效用于“最困难地区”。而中国和印度等经济巨人不再符合相应标准。尼贝尔并未透露具体何时停止援助。

《图片报》称,尼贝尔的计划遭到德国绿党的批评。绿党发展政策问题发言人乌特。科齐和绿党籍议员克拉蒙将新任经济合作部长的计划称为“傲慢的首次官方行为”,是“在这一事务上的错误做法且后果严重”。

尼贝尔的前任海德玛丽。维乔雷克-措伊尔曾试图修改对华资金援助。她去年曾宣布,希望结束同中国“传统上的资金合作”。但她同时指出,与中国在环境技术领域的合作也符合德国利益。

德国《法兰克福评论报》评论称,尼贝尔认为,由于年人均国民生产总值2200欧元、排名世界第106位的中国本身也是提供建设援助的大国,因此它应放弃来自德国的资金。然而,平均数并未能反映中国的巨大差距。在那里,极度的贫困落后和巨大的财富共存。
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发表于 2010-6-5 05:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
2007年的新闻回顾:

http://falv.de/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=807
德国政要再次提出取消对华发展援助【德国之声】
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人们一直在讨论,有着两位数经济增长率的中国,还是不是发展中国家。统计数据也表明,2007到2008年,中国的出口将以每年百分之二十的速度增长。到了 2008年,中国很可能超过德国,成为世界的第一大出口国。因此,德国主要政党领导人纷纷提出,取消对中国的发展援助。+ z" a. U& _9 }( p1 Z
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“对华发展援助政策应该受到检讨”2 y" W. O$ x9 {9 D- |
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“我们现在已经没有任何理由在对中国进行发展援助。” 布吕德勒,自民党议会党团副主席,在7月27日的《图片报》发表了他对德国对华经济援助项目的反对。他认为中国已经是一个非常成功的高科技国家,而不再是发展中国家。基民盟联邦议会党团副主席博斯巴赫也要求政府评估是否要继续对中国进行发展援助投资。1 k/ U0 ?9 i$ N/ @

5 {3 @9 ^1 h7 I: L不同党派的德国政要同时发言要求政府取消对华发展援助,主要原因是7月26日德国工商大会发表的统计数据显示,估计到2008年,中国的出口额将达到11220亿欧元,而德国到时的预计出口额将是10940亿欧元,中国从而有可能取代德国,这个正在给中国提供“发展援助”的国家,成为世界第一大出口国。他们提出取消对华援助的主要理由是,中国经济增长迅速,已经不再是一个发展中国家,因此也就不再需要德国的“发展援助”。: e0 M! M( y, \) p* {( k3 K
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" U$ D2 o$ h9 ~6 f9 [" R; R% x5 a6 d" |德国政府发言人托马斯·史泰戈对政要“应停止对华发展援助”的提议回应道:“中国并没有得到德国的发展援助。” 中德两国之间一直进行着的是非常成功的“经济合作”,合作领域主要集中在环保方面,尤其是可更新能源与节能方面的项目。
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( Q) f! r1 w. A/ {% e* }联邦援助与发展部部长维乔雷克措伊尔女士也针对停止援助的发言,在7月27日以政府公报的形势发表意见。公报中首先强调,德国对中国的发展援助已经不是简单的无偿投入,德国的对华投资首先体现的是德国的利益:“德国与中国政府正在进行策略性的合作,目标是解决具有全球性意义的问题。”她在公报中表示,中德之间的合作尤其体现在气候和环境保护等方面的问题,因为中国对全球气候变化方有很重要的影响。“没有中国的参与,全球环境保护就没法进行。”因此,维乔雷克措伊尔认为要求停止对华发展援助是“短视和错误的”。公报中还写到,对华的发展援助已经不再是“帮助中国发展经济”,“消除贫穷,是中国人自己的任务。在过去的几年里,我们对中国的发展援助重点已经转移到环境保护和帮助中国建设法治国家上面来了。”
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德国的对华发展援助一般是通过联邦援助与发展部制定政策,划定投资计划,然后由政府下属的国有企业来执行。成立于1975年的德国技术合作公司(GTZ)就是其中的一个企业,它主要执行德国对全球发展援助的技术发展援助部分。德国技术合作公司的安德雅·汉恩女士在接受德国之声记者采访时介绍了目前该部门与中国的合作:“我们对华的工作重点主要集中在法律咨询,环保咨询,和经济结构建设咨询方面。” 汉恩女士介绍说,目前由技术合作公司负责的在华项目有26个,涉及一亿欧元的投资项目。不过这些钱主要集中在能源和环保方面。汉恩女士举例介绍了目前正在进行中的几个项目:“我们有一个项目是研究,怎么样帮助中国人建造更节省能源的住房;另一个项目是对中国西部的森林保护提供技术支持;还有,我们也在通过援助项目帮助没有受到正规教育的失业青年,以及妇女接受职业教育,使他们能够在经济上独立。”( V1 O( m" a" v! A- Y

1 _+ N" ]/ G1 w2 p+ Y. y. m* H; i该公司目前的环境项目负责人在接受德国之声中文广播记者采访时说,在环境保护方面对中国的援助非常重要:“中国经济虽然发展迅速,但是中国是一个幅员辽阔的国家,还有很多人生活在贫困之中。我们的任务应该是在政府决策中维持对中国的援助。在环保领域,德国有着先进的技术和管理经验,我认为,在这些领域继续对中国提供援助是绝对有意义的。说个大话,我们甚至可以帮助全球免受环境灾难。”
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1 l5 V2 \/ Y) B& z5 }/ A停止对华发展援助的声音已经不是第一次在德国政界出现。从2006年2月开始,不同党派的政要已经数次提出相似的提议。这些提议的提出,也都是基于中国经济在过去二十多年的迅速发展。不过,虽然中国近年总体的经济发展迅速,增长率经常达到两位数,不过到目前为止,仍有2600万中国人仍然生活于“绝对贫困”的状态下。中国的人均收入只是德国人的6%。2 p& `% {( A  t
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1982年10月13日,中德两国政府签署了技术合作总协定,德国政府开始对华提供无偿援助。截止2006年7月,德国政府共向中国提供无偿援助 7.74亿欧元,其中技术合作资金5.56亿欧元,人员培训8500万欧元,提供紧急救灾援款4250万欧元,为山东省沂蒙山区11个县提供“营养保障” 粮援资金9100万欧元。 中国是德国政府对外无偿援助的最大受援国。
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发表于 2010-6-5 07:43 AM | 显示全部楼层
Europe is close to completing stress tests on its banks to gauge their ability to withstand a market slump and the results should be published to help restore market confidence, top European Central Bank officials said on Saturday.

Washington has been urging Europe to conduct such tests in the belief that publishing similar assessments of U.S. banks heed bolster confidence on Wall Street and prodded banks to raise needed extra capital.

The ECB said last week that euro zone banks faced potential writedowns totaling 195 billion euros by the end of 2011.

Speaking after a meeting of Group of 20 finance ministers and central bank chiefs, ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet said he expected the authorities to take stock of the stress test exercise done according to guidelines from the ECB and the EU's executive, the European Commission.

"I expect appropriate communication will take place at that moment," Trichet told a news conference.

The tests are being conducted by the Committee of European Banking Supervisors (CEBS) which is made up of the EU's 27 national bank regulators.

The results will be passed on to EU finance ministers.

Details of a previous test were made public only in broad terms with no reference to individual banks.

Mario Draghi, the Bank of Italy governor who heads the Financial Stability Board, said Europe should take a leaf out of Washington's book and publish the results.

"The decision of the U.S. government to undertake these tests last year and publish them had a very beneficial impact both on the market and on the banks themselves," Draghi told reporters in Busan.

"It clears the air and basically puts the banks in a condition they would be able to raise capital. I think we should aim at doing the same," said Draghi, who is also a member of the ECB governing council.

U.S. Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner, urged Europe to make further efforts to restructure and recapitalize its banks.

In response to a question on whether Europeans should take additional steps, such as disclosures of stress tests, Geithner said the basic commitment to transparency in America's bank stress tests had been critical to recapitalizing banks.

"Markets work better when people have a better sense of how to assess risk, markets work better when they're not operating in the dark," Geithner told a news conference in Busan.

European banks needed to undertake a serious effort to improve their transparency, Draghi said.

Italy's banks are properly capitalized and not under threat from market volatility due to worries over the economic problems of Hungary and Greece, Draghi added.
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发表于 2010-6-5 07:47 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 alex68 于 2010-6-5 09:51 编辑

华尔街谣传的债务违约根本就是个谎言, 欧元空头就是这么下三烂的,全世界有目共睹


(Reuters) - Hungary's government said on Saturday it still aimed to meet this year's deficit target, as it sought to draw a line under "exaggerated" talk of a possible Greek-style debt crisis that had unnerved markets a day earlier.

State secretary Mihaly Varga, who headed a committee examining the state of the budget, said Hungary's previous socialist governments had hidden the true state of the country's public finances, and that additional measures would be needed to reach the 3.8 percent of GDP target.

Fears of a Hungarian debt crisis pushed the euro to a four-year low on Friday after a ruling party official said the country had only a slight chance of avoiding the same fate that Greece is facing and the prime minister's spokesman said he supported this view.

"Those comments which were made on this issue are exaggerated, and if a colleague makes them it is unfortunate," Varga told a news conference.

"I have to say that the situation is consolidated, and the planned deficit (target) is attainable, but for it to be attainable the government must take measures."

He said some tax revenues were lower than planned in the current budget and several spending items higher or not included in it at all.

"We must state that the Bajnai government, similarly to the Gyurcsany government in 2006, ... did not present a credible picture of the real state of the country," Varga said.

When asked repeatedly if it could be stated that Hungary was not close to default, Varga told the news conference:

"I have said that any comparison with countries with much higher CDSs is unfortunate. These do not give a credible picture of the state of Hungary...."

He declined to give an estimate, or a range projection, for the 2010 budget deficit but said the government would come up with an action plan at an extraordinary meeting lasting until Monday.

Varga also said the government aimed to meet the 3.8 percent of gross domestic product target agreed with international lenders.

Prime ministerial spokesman Peter Szijjarto said on Friday that he supported the view his country had only a slim chance of avoiding a Greek-style debt crisis, although he said his government would act swiftly to avoid the Greek path.

On the local market, the forint plunged over 2 percent versus the euro to a new one-year low at one point, while five-year credit default swaps (CDS) jumped, as investors called for clarity on the government's plans.
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发表于 2010-6-5 07:55 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 22# padme

德国人的困惑我觉得一点不难理解.

中国扮演的角色非常尴尬,一方面是美国最大的债主,坐拥世界上最大的外汇储备,  给非洲很多无偿援助, 另一方面又接受来自西方的援助...
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发表于 2010-6-5 10:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 alex68 于 2010-6-5 13:26 编辑

回复 12# Whigs
加州可以印钱么, fed 买它的债券么, 美国政府准备给它的融资担保么? 怎么办?

这样的州还有密歇根好多个的...
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