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发表于 2010-8-13 07:23 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


Oracle sued google for the infringement of Java patented technology.

世界上哪里有真正的免费午餐呢,Oracle 烧了6B 买 sun, 目标就是Java 的应用市场,能随便便宜了那些靠java 吃饭的大户么?

下一步就是那些Android 手机制造商了,乖乖掏钱买royalty.

Java 免费午餐从Oracle 时代开始要彻底终结了。。。

长期看好oracle.
发表于 2010-8-13 07:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-8-13 08:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
Oracle 果然够奸诈!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 11:15 AM | 显示全部楼层
Poo 发表于 2010-8-13 09:34


咋啦,为啥这个反应?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 11:17 AM | 显示全部楼层
Oracle 果然够奸诈!
jamesmith 发表于 2010-8-13 10:05


En, Oracle 大老板不是吃素的。

我记得90年的中国oracle大老板也是黑道出身,据说,是香港的警察头子,修理在中国那些使用盗版Oracle的大户很有点手段的。
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发表于 2010-8-13 01:00 PM | 显示全部楼层


小意思,iPhone这个商标当年还是Cisco注册的。

再说,如果Oracle也在Android得到甜头,那么支持Android的大户就更多了。

市场今天根本不care这个新闻,没看ORCL比GOOG跌得还厉害吗?
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发表于 2010-8-13 02:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
oracle 现在的摊子扎得大了点儿, 软硬通吃了.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 02:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
小意思,iPhone这个商标当年还是Cisco注册的。

再说,如果Oracle也在Android得到甜头,那么支 ...
dividend_growth 发表于 2010-8-13 15:00


对android 这么有信心? 三星很快发布自己的手机操作系统,它可是android的真正大户。其它的比如摩托罗拉,爱立信这些好白吃的让oracle 这么一搞,可能5年后在手机市场上就彻底失踪了。

现在的问题是, GOOGLE不是直接从android上获益,但是oracle 偏偏紧盯google,  这事有点难搞,oracle 烧了6B,它的胃口绝对不是一个一次性的交易可以摆平的。不过估计也要些日子才能搞定, 慢慢看好戏,这个事情和iphone商标纠纷不是一个级别的。
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发表于 2010-8-13 03:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dividend_growth 于 2010-8-13 17:22 编辑

对,而且Oracle打不赢这个官司的,因为这个官司的可笑程度相当于SCO告Linux和IBM。

这次是两个地头蛇在打,没有一方有太多的地理优势,向上次RIMM的那个injunction也不可能发生,因为有关的法律已近改了。
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发表于 2010-8-13 03:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
还有个可能性就是Oracle非常怕软件行业发展的趋势,所以想尽一切方法来破坏。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 03:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 alex68 于 2010-8-13 17:31 编辑
对,而且Oracle打不赢这个官司的,因为这个官司的可笑程度相当于SCO告Linux和IBM。

这次是两个地头蛇在打 ...
dividend_growth 发表于 2010-8-13 17:19


SCO sue Linux and IBM?  How?!
I also read some people talking about Linux foundation sues RedHat. So ignorant! The person should study the history of Linux and where RedHat came from.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 03:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 alex68 于 2010-8-13 17:42 编辑

SCO vs. IBM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_v._IBM

Why SCO lost? haha, if SCO had won, it would have been the biggest joke in IT industry. Read through those analysis pages, you will understand why I say so!
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发表于 2010-8-13 04:00 PM | 显示全部楼层
SCO和RMBS都是渣滓
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 04:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
SCO和RMBS都是渣滓
AGA7d 发表于 2010-8-13 18:00

RMBS 是啥? Residential Mortgage-Backed Security, 好像关系不大啊?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 04:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
Java's technology 目前还是非常现代的. google 真是聪明反被聪明误,既然当初这么看好手机广告业务,为什么不直接把sun 买下来,留下现在的这个隐患,这里的麻烦大了,现在就是12b 从oracle 手上买java, oracle 也 不一定会同意的。

通过这件事情,google业务模式风险很大. 使用那么多qt 的东西,为什么不买下来, 让nokia 抢占了制高点. earth 的服务也是别人的...

先见周公,以后有空儿再细料。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-13 05:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
对,而且Oracle打不赢这个官司的,因为这个官司的可笑程度相当于SCO告Linux和IBM。

这次是两个地头蛇在打 ...

这次是两个地头蛇在打,没有一方有太多的地理优势,向上次RIMM的那个injunction也不可能发生,因为有关的法律已近改了。
dividend_growth 发表于 2010-8-13 17:19


I don't understand which injunction you meant. I just quickly checked RIMM's all patent litigation from its wiki pages.

Since the turn of the century, RIM has been embroiled in a series of suits relating to alleged patent infringement.[12]
In 2001, Research In Motion sued competitor Glenayre Electronics[13] Inc for patent infringement, partly in response to an earlier infringement suit filed by Glenayre against RIM. RIM sought an injunction to prevent Glenayre from infringing on RIM's "Single Mailbox Integration" patent.[14] The suit was ultimately settled.
In June 2002, Research In Motion filed suit against 2000 start-up and competitor Good Technology.[15] RIM filed additional complaints through-out the year.[16] In March 2004, Good agreed to a licensing deal, thereby settling the outstanding litigation.[17]
On September 16, 2002, Research In Motion was awarded a patent pertaining to keyboard design on hand-held e-mail devices. Upon receiving the patent, it proceeded to sue Handspring over its Treo device.[16][18] Handspring eventually agreed to license RIM's patent and avoid further litigation in November of the same year.[19]
During the appeals, RIM discovered new prior art that raised a "substantial new question of patentability" and filed for a reexamination of the NTP patents in the United States Patent and Trademark Office. That reexamination was conducted separately to the court cases for infringement. In February 2006, the USPTO rejected all of NTP's claims in three disputed patents. NTP has appealed the decision, and the reexamination process is still outgoing as of July 2006 (See NTP, Inc. for details).
On March 3, 2006, RIM announced that it had settled its BlackBerry patent dispute with NTP. Under the terms of the settlement, RIM has agreed to pay NTP US$612.5 million in a “full and final settlement of all claims.” In a statement, RIM said that “all terms of the agreement have been finalized and the litigation against RIM has been dismissed by a court order this afternoon. The agreement eliminates the need for any further court proceedings or decisions relating to damages or injunctive relief.”[citation needed]
See also: NTP, Inc.#RIM patent infringement litigation
On July 17, 2003, while still embroiled in litigation with NTP and Good Technology, RIM filed suit against Xerox in the U.S. District of Hartford, Connecticut. The suit was filed in response to discussions about patents held by Xerox that might affect RIM's business, and also asks that patents held by Xerox be invalidated.[20]
On May 1, 2006, RIM was sued by Visto for infringement of four patents.[21]
On January 22, 2010, Motorola requested that all BlackBerry smartphones be banned from being imported into the United States for infringing upon five of Motorola's patents. Their patents for "early-stage innovations", including UI, power management and WiFi, are in question.[22]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_In_Motion
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发表于 2010-8-13 05:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-8-13 05:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
当年NTP打赢了官司,RIMM要是不付钱法院可以终止所有的Blackberry服务,这就是所谓的"injunction"。
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发表于 2010-8-13 06:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
RMBS 是啥? Residential Mortgage-Backed Security, 好像关系不大啊?
alex68 发表于 2010-8-13 18:32


RAMBUS -- 有内存的专利
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发表于 2010-8-13 07:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
Interesting
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