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imtigerking

初到贵宝地,大家对俺都很热情,俺也向各位老大,各位高手学习了不少.在此一一谢过. Azure版主希望俺能讲讲俺的操作.这可真让俺有点为难. 俺为难的是俺虽然在股市中有点小小的心得,不过那都是在比较大的周期上, 像日内交易这种高端武器俺的经验只有1个多月的实战经验,和各位老大是远远不能相比的. 俺怕写出来会误导各位同学啊. 不过,既然老大发了话,俺就班门弄斧把俺上周五做的几笔交易拿来分析分析,就当抛砖引玉吧.

要分析交易,俺还得先上张图. 这里为了说清楚俺的思路, 用一张9月23日的1m图把俺的5笔交易全部标出来了. 红线代表short, 蓝线是long或者cover. 每笔交易表示为 T1,...T5, L/S 表示long/short, 后面的数值6c, 41c等表示赢利亏损多少cents/share



上周五是一个典型的平衡市,也就是range bound day.这种日子,日交易的典型做法是寻找主要支撑阻力(昨高,昨低,昨收etc)的位置fade original trend. 这一天最有价值的三个trade应该是1处的short, 2处的long,和4处的long

注意看, 俺把这3个地方的pattern都用红粗线表示出来了. 这三个地方都是典型的wedge pattern. wedge pattern在传统的技术分析理论中,比如John Murphy的书中通常是作为continuation pattern, 但俺主要将其作为reversal pattern, 特别是在前面经过了一大段的上涨或者下跌以后出现的wedge更要特别小心其反转. 另外,俺还用3个小椭圆框表示出这3个wedge末端的k线形态,注意观察这些k线形态也是典型的反转形态.

这两条就基本上解释了俺在T1的short, 以及在T3和T5的long的理由.

至于出,如果你trade的wedge的反转,其后一般第一波上涨或者下跌就会有较大的幅度保证你的风报比远远大于2,
你如果碰巧又是scalper的话,那可以说随便出,比如俺在T3后的交易, entry是38.03, 其后走势最高曾经冲到38.73,也就是3那个点
账面有70c的利润,你基本可以随便出. 俺当时太贪心加上一根筋认为会突破昨高, 就没有出来,导致这笔交易没有赚钱最后平着出来了. 看来做惯了swing一下子做dt还是不太适应. 俺还需要再总结.

T2, T4两个交易基本上属于overtrading, 俺就不多讲了.

最后俺要强调一点是, 抄底逃顶属于强势操作,不适合每一个人,能顺着趋势就很好了.

西安

上周五是一个典型的平衡市,也就是range bound day.这种日子,日交易的典型做法是寻找主要支撑阻力(昨昨低,昨收etc)的位置fade original trend. 这一天最有价值的三个trade应该是1处的short, 2处的long,和4处的long


Like above, big picture very clear, if is difficult not win money.虎王

西安

我觉得T1，2，3，5 all reasonable entry points, but I can not understand T4, the trade result will be good if you choice scalp, but in such a bear channel, down trend in 1 min chart is so strong, how could make decision to take that entry. Is it because of the black dot line?

silicon_beaver

redboy

sorry wrong person

MFTHT

虎王。

redboy

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"初到贵宝地,大家对俺都很热情,俺也向各位老大,各位高手学习了不少.在此一一谢过. Azure版主希望俺能讲讲俺的操作.这可真让俺有点为难. 俺为难的是俺虽然在股市中有点小小的心得,不过那都是在比较大的周期上, 像日内交易这种高端武器俺的经验只有1个多月的实战经验,和各位老大是远远不能相比的. 俺怕写出来会误导各位同学啊. 不过,既然老大发了话,俺就班门弄斧把俺上周五做的几笔交易拿来分析分析,就当抛砖引玉吧. "

I just want to say DT is top TA for people because not much time for you to  think to get in and out ,so if you do DT well on TA  ( not scalp trade ) all other it is easy for you no matter short ,mid or long term chart ,just the time frame different.If you look at 1 min to compare other time frame,they all are same running .

redboy

tza 5分钟15分钟比较 看看圆圈 他们运行的是相同的,只是时限不同

imtigerking

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I just want to say DT is top TA for people because not much time for you to  think to get in and out ,so if you do DT well on TA  ( not scalp trade ) all other it is easy for you no matter short ,mid or long term chart ,just the time frame different.If you look at 1 min to compare other time frame,they all are same running .

Thanks for your comments. How do you set up your stop?  How many trades do you usually have per day?

redboy

imtigerking 发表于 2011-9-25 17:36
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I just want to say DT is top TA for people because not much time for you to  thi ...

about 2-4 stop below Support or resistance

redboy

wrong one

redboy

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2-4 trades a day.tza is fast run so 30 c or 50 c stop,but if you win, most of time you will win over $1 so win ration 1:2 and up

redboy

笑一笑 发表于 2011-9-25 17:46
谢谢。请教您说的“上周五是一个典型的平衡市,也就是range bound day。”是如何定义的，是事先分析出的还是 ...

本帖最后由 redboy 于 2011-9-23 09:23 编辑

Patience is money 耐心等待是金钱
Today should be range play but 我 今天仍然跟随趋势操作TZA，预开在56下，因此，如果它没新高，将开始调整 这将拉回来 53-52 我认为这是第一支持，51-50 是第二支持所以是时间再次买进。如创新高，下一阻力大约57.5-58，反正任何$ 2 - $3拉了回来，仍然是好时机再次买进TZA。My simple trading way just follow the trend and long at support or short at resistance.

It is hart to tell in one word let me think how to answer you later

imtigerking

I still feel DT is very hard game for me. First of all, it's very fast decision making. Second it's very time consuming. I have to watch the screen whole day long. I definitely need more time to practice.

redboy

笑一笑 发表于 2011-9-25 17:46
谢谢。请教您说的“上周五是一个典型的平衡市,也就是range bound day。”是如何定义的，是事先分析出的还是 ...

1 Thursday down so much 2, I said it before on thursay (本帖最后由 redboy 于 2011-9-22 15:06 编辑

the market just get new low so rebound  fast then try second time to go lower if it can not get lower this time it should rebound from here and weekly dobule bottom may not easy to break down ) 3 .经验

imtigerking

俺刚看了一下,那图俺没发全,俺把图片更新了一下.
顺便再提个思考题给各位动动脑?
请解释一下,为什么T3在3那个地方是一个比较好的出点?

redboy

imtigerking 发表于 2011-9-25 18:12
俺刚看了一下,那图俺没发全,俺把图片更新了一下.
顺便再提个思考题给各位动动脑?
请解释一下,为什么T3在 ...

double top so out , DT not that long just few years

MFTHT

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蓝线的小牛旗上破，
红线的上升轨道上轨。

redboy

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Trading always need to look at big pictures