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发表于 2011-1-17 12:46 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


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Apple CEO Jobs Takes Medical Leave, Cook to Fill In
By Matthew Campbell - Jan 17, 2011
Apple Inc. Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs, a cancer survivor, was granted a leave of absence to focus on his health, putting the company in the hands of Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook for the third time in seven years.

Cook will be responsible for the day-to-day operations, with Jobs continuing as CEO, Apple said today, citing an e-mail to employees from Jobs. The Apple co-founder took an almost six- month break to have a liver transplant in 2009.

“I love Apple so much and hope to be back as soon as I can,” Jobs, 55, said in the e-mail. Jobs said he will continue to “be involved in major strategic decisions for the company.”

The current medical leave follows one for cancer surgery in 2004 and the transplant in 2009. In the 14 years since taking charge of Apple, he has transformed the business from a computer-industry also-ran into the world’s largest technology company by market value. He introduced the iPod, iPhone and iPad -- products that became the trendsetters in each of their markets.

“This comes as a surprise; there was no hint of trouble at all,” said Alexander Peterc, an analyst at Exane BNP Paribas in London. “The lack of a more precise indication on the length of the leave suggests there are long-term issues with his health.”

Apple spokesman Steve Dowling declined to comment beyond the statement. The company will likely face questions about the leave during a conference call with analysts tomorrow after Apple reports first-quarter financial results.

2009 Transplant

Apple shares fell as much as 8.9 percent in German trading, and were down 7.5 percent to 242 euros ($321.55) as of 4:45 p.m. in Frankfurt. The shares closed at $348.48 in New York on Jan. 14. U.S. markets are closed today for a holiday. U.S. stock futures extended losses after the announcement.

Jobs’s 2009 liver transplant took place at Methodist University Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee. The surgeon who performed the procedure, James Eason, is an expert in treating recurrences of a rare cancer Jobs said he had in 2004.

The cancer, called neuroendocrine tumor, was discovered in Jobs’s pancreas. While the tumor is often slow-growing, it can spread to the liver where it can become life-threatening. Eason said at the time that he had replaced the livers of about 10 people with the rare cancer. Jobs hasn’t said whether his transplant was done to treat a recurrence of the tumor. Eason didn’t immediately return a call placed to his office today.

Cook’s Role

Cook, 50, took over daily management for Jobs during his 2009 medical leave. Cook received total compensation of $59.1 million, including a special bonus and stock in recognition of “his outstanding performance” during that period.

The company was criticized by some investors at the time for not disclosing Jobs’s health issues sooner.

“Apple missed an opportunity to hand the day-to-day responsibility to another executive” earlier on, with Jobs focusing on broader ideas and design while taking care of his health, Michael Obuchowski, chief investment officer at First Empire Asset Management in Hauppage, New York, said in an e- mail. “I am worried that the current decision to keep Steve Jobs as CEO is another mistake.”

In 2004, Cook also filled in for Jobs while he recuperated from surgery for the tumor in his pancreas. After the treatment, Jobs looked thinner at events through 2008 and the company’s stock fluctuated amid speculation about his health. He announced he was taking time off in January 2009.

“I have great confidence that Tim and the rest of the executive management team will do a terrific job executing the exciting plans we have in place for 2011,” Jobs said in the e- mail to employees that was released today.

Jobs, who co-founded Apple in 1976 at the age of 21, was ousted by the board in 1985. When he returned to the company in 1997, it had run up $1.86 billion in losses over two years. Apple was 90 days away from bankruptcy, Jobs would later say. The company is now the second most valuable behind Exxon Mobil Corp.

To contact the reporters on this story: Matthew Campbell in Paris at mcampbell39@bloomberg.net;

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Vidya Root at vroot@bloomberg.net
 楼主| 发表于 2011-1-17 12:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
Nasdaq future down 1.22% at this time
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发表于 2011-1-17 12:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
Thanks.
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发表于 2011-1-17 12:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
该来的迟早会来的。
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
大大的坏消息。这几天我还在琢磨着我手中的APPL怎么办,今天就看到了这样一个消息。
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
谁给查查,Jobs上两次sick leave以后都发生了什么?
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 7# Cobra
刚刚从mit看到:
2009年1月14日 CNBC报导JOBS TAKE MEDICAL LEAVE。当时AAPL 股价大概是85。 期间TIM COOK 掌舵。 到JOBS半年多以后回到AAPL 时, 股价大概是170左右。
但是上次说是离开半年。我觉得这次他可能要挂了。。。
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
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刚刚从mit看到:
2009年1月14日 CNBC报导JOBS TAKE MEDICAL LEAVE。当时AAPL 股价大概是85。 ...
littlevivi 发表于 2011-1-17 13:27



这样看来先卖后买...错不了
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-1-17 01:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
Apple这次announcement的时间有玄机,今天股市不开,而明天盘后APPLE就报业绩。

消息报出来肯定会对股票有影响,还是选择在报业绩前一天公布消息,估计Apple的earning应该还不错。
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
北京时间1月17日晚间消息,苹果公司周一宣布,CEO史蒂夫·乔布斯(Steve Jobs)因个人健康问题而休病假。对于该消息,业内分析师普遍感到意外。

  法国巴黎银行旗下证券部门Exane BNP Paribas分析师亚历山大·佩特科(Alexander Peterc)称:“该消息出乎意料,苹果投资者会深感意外,肯定会对苹果股价产生消极影响。”

  佩特科同时指出:“即使乔布斯永不再回苹果,苹果在未来几年内的运作也不会受到太大影响。”佩特科称:“从长期角度讲,因为苹果是一家大企业,可能会失去一些创新优势。而且,苹果当前的产品都在乔布斯的监管之下完成。但是,苹果当前的产品已经足够保持苹果继续成功,苹果需要培育当前的产品线。”

  大西洋证券(Atlantic Securities)分析师詹姆斯·科德维尔(James Cordwell)称:“该消息令人意外,对于乔布斯个人而言也不是个好消息。”科德维尔说:“2009年曾出现过类似事件,这一次可能一样。上一次,苹果的表现很不错。但这一次,苹果股价有些令人担忧。”

  野村证券分析师理查德·温莎(Richard Windsor)称:“坦率地讲,理论上对苹果公司的影响不会很大,但公司感知是另一回事。长期以来,乔布斯一直被视为苹果的掌舵者。如果他的胰腺癌复发,情况可能不妙。”

  调研公司CCS Insight分析师本·伍德(Ben Wood)称:“下意识的反应应该是消极的,但我认为,苹果是一家大型企业,而不是一个人的公司。从上一次的表现可以看出,苹果不会偏离轨道太多。我们还会继续看到苹果发布一些伟大的产品。”(
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
这样看来先卖后买...错不了
shoujie 发表于 2011-1-17 13:33


不一定吧。我觉得如果他真得回不来了,但是APPL还是很好,大家也许会invest more,以后APPL还会越来越贵,但是in between, 苹果可能会消停一阵子了
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
Apple这次announcement的时间有玄机,今天股市不开,而明天盘后APPLE就报业绩。

消息报出来肯定会对股票 ...
ypm968 发表于 2011-1-17 13:33


选在ER前出消息说明ER好,希望能offset一些坏得影响

单个人经验是,major event之后的ER只是浮云... ER这种反映三个月的东西不能和老乔病休这种可能影响果果十年的事件相提并论...
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发表于 2011-1-17 01:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
转载 蓉儿 from 168

参考上次大跌: 那次连跌10天,但没有跌破 range ,,还是range play ,然后有上去了,这回很像

明天跌 反弹一点 ,后天开盘续跌,这个gap down 一定需要几天消化,,一定是 range play 再上去
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个人觉得这个看法很靠谱
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发表于 2011-1-17 02:02 PM | 显示全部楼层
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ypm968 发表于 2011-1-17 12:47


appl占的比重太大,jobs病假不是他一个人的事,美国大机构甚至政府应该早就知道了,提前有布局。
下周又是ER又是OE,选在这么个长周末发布消息,肯定不是那么简单。
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发表于 2011-1-17 02:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
背景相反。

上一次在Jobs请病假之前,人们一直在担忧他的病情,AAPL股价一直受压,处于下跌趋势中,到Jobs当时真正宣布请病假之时,是属于利空出尽,所谓“SELL THE RUMOR, BUY THE NEWS"。加上几天后AAPL ER超预期,当然AAPL就开始飙了。

还有,当时在Jobs当时真正宣布请病假之时,AAPL是在BB下轨。

而目前,以上几点都正好相反。

Apple这次announcement的时间有玄机,今天股市不开,而明天盘后APPLE就报业绩。

消息报出来肯定会对股票 ...
ypm968 发表于 2011-1-17 13:33
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-1-17 02:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
背景相反。

上一次在Jobs请病假之前,人们一直在担忧他的病情,AAPL股价一直受压,处于下跌趋势中,到Jo ...
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    上次是bear market, 这次是bull market.
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发表于 2011-1-17 02:22 PM | 显示全部楼层


“希望能offset一些坏的影响”,我觉得这是APPLE公司甚至美国政府的一厢情愿,机构们买不买帐则就另当别论了。假如我是机构,已经获利巨丰,在这看不清前景的时刻,我宁愿出来观察一阵子,将来再决定怎么办。

再说了,JOBS对于AAPL实在是具有举足轻重的作用,人不可能长生不老,这已经是他第三次病休了,谁知道他会在哪一次病休后再也不回来了呢?

选在ER前出消息说明ER好,希望能offset一些坏得影响

单个人经验是,major event之后的ER只是浮云... ...
xiaoyaoxl 发表于 2011-1-17 13:51
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-1-17 02:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
转载 蓉儿 from 168

参考上次大跌: 那次连跌10天,但没有跌破 range ,,还是range play ,然后有上去了 ...
xiaoyaoxl 发表于 2011-1-17 10:59



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建议你先对照一下我上面的图。
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发表于 2011-1-17 02:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
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