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[转贴] There's worse to come for the economy

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发表于 2009-6-20 07:32 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,25663994-462,00.html
AUSTRALIA'S sharemarket will halve in value, house prices will slump as much as 40 per cent and unemployment will climb to 10 per cent.
That's the bold prediction from economic forecaster Harry Dent, who says a bigger crash is ahead for the global economy within the next two years.

And while Australia's strong financial system, links to China and young working population have cushioned the nation from the economic turmoil so far, Mr Dent says smart investors are cashing up in preparation for "the Mother of all depressions", The Sunday Mail reports.

"When you have to deleverage a major bubble in stocks and housing and commodities ... it doesn't just get over with in one year with a nice stimulus program," he says.

Mr Dent, who predicted Japan's 1990s recession and the present economic crisis, yesterday began an Australian speaking tour in Brisbane.

He says a "perfect storm" is brewing where a peak in spending by baby boomers will collide with the global commodity bubble to "leave behind the next great crash".

Although Australia's All Ordinaries Index may peak at between 4500 and 5000 points by the end of this year, he says a crash in about 2011 will see it slump to about 2000 points.

He says our house prices are "among the most overvalued in the world" and will backtrack by as much as 40 per cent while unemployment – now at 5.7 per cent – will hit double digits.

"I would say Australia is not paying close enough attention to the worldwide housing bubble and banking crisis," he says.

Mr Dent scoffs at a BIS Shrapnel report, issued this week, that said home values would rise by as much as 20 per cent over the next three years.

"Look at Japan to see what happens when a generational trend finally slows your economy and a housing bubble bursts. Housing peaked in 1991 in Japan and is still down over 60 per cent from the peak 18 years later."

He believes the next boom will begin to unfold in 2023, when India will take over from China as the world's growth powerhouse.

"If I was Australian businesses and government I'd say, 'OK, China's our best customer now but we need to be cultivating India'," Mr Dent says.

"India is the one large country – that isn't dependent on just commodity cycles for exports – that could grow dramatically and urbanise."

He says India's economic strength will be underpinned by its youthful population – something that will also help make Australia one of the most resilient developed economies throughout the next two decades.

Most of the affluent world is not having enough children to support their ageing population, he says.

Japan has the oldest population in the world, followed by Italy.

However, Australia's immigration policy has ensured the local economy has stayed refreshed by young, skilled workers from overseas, helping drive innovation to "take the economy to new heights".

"Your demographics do not turn down nearly as much as Europe and the United States and Japan's did and your banking system didn't go nuts," Mr Dent says. "You will fare better but you won't come out of this unscathed."
发表于 2009-6-20 07:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
house price is way too high! drop is due!
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发表于 2009-6-20 08:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
Harry Dent不是两三年前说Dow要在2009年到45000吗?




The Next Great Bubble Boom: How to Profit from the Greatest Boom in History: 2006-2010 [BARGAIN PRICE] (Paperback)
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-20 08:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
宁信其有,不信其无.
小心能驶万年船
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-20 08:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 supsucc 于 2009-6-20 22:00 编辑

that was made by May 06, 2007

his forecast Dow crash by 2009, it was actually one year before his forecasting.
http://www.associatedcontent.com ... y_the.html


Harry Dent is an economist and writer. He was accurate in his forecasts in the early 1990's that the Dow would reach 10000.

However, he was off on his prognosis that the bear market of 2000-2002 wouldn't be as deep as it was. Presently he is now forecasting by 2009 the Dow will reach 20,000 due to a new bubble being created and then a major economic downturn happens along with a crash in the stock and


real estate market between 2010-2014.
Then the expansion in the slow down continues to around 2022. So basically, you have 2 more years of one of the greatest bull markets in history, and then you better get defensive. He says it will be essential from 2010 to 2012 for investors to be in fixed accounts or high quality bonds and then be prepared to pick up some significant opportunities in the stock and real estate market after that final crash comes.

So now let's see where we are at. We've hit 13,000 on the Dow and no one is really celebrating. Is this positive or negative for the stock market? Well, if you are a contrarian investor, it is positive.

What happens when you have a lot of pessimism in the stock market? The market continues to climb higher. The reason is the market tends to climb the wall of worry which has always been the determination of a strong uptrend.

There are a couple of important things that happen with pessimism. It promotes a lot of small investors to remain in cash positions (they're not in the market yet) and a lot of short selling traders. The first group still doesn't believe the market is going higher so they wait for it to decline to enter into a better risk/reward. The second group, the short sellers, speculates that the market is going down.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-20 09:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
3# dividend_growth

If you check the date the book published, you might have another thought
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发表于 2009-6-20 10:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
他有些道理,但要把他的预测范围缩小2-3倍才行。
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发表于 2009-6-21 01:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
我认为日本和澳洲不一样。资产特别是房产,长期是和货币价值挂钩的。
日本奉行低日元低利率,以日元为融资货币,
澳洲奉行高利率,澳元跟随商品和经济周期。
以至于出现在经济增长多年日本房产也没有回到当初。
因为日本人都投资别的地方去了。

同样美国。对比中国,香港,新加坡,加拿大这些地区。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-21 05:50 AM | 显示全部楼层
钱是追逐利益的,那有利钱就会往哪里去.你说呢?
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