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发表于 2013-12-20 06:52 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


Porter Stansberry: The stock market is going to CRASH

First, all three of the primary, contrarian market indicators we follow in my Investment Advisory are showing strongly bullish conditions. Things that drive stock prices higher (i.e. credit, capital flows, and sentiment) are all near record highs.

Credit has never been cheaper (record-low risk spreads). Cash into equity mutual funds has never been stronger (money flows). And sentiment has never been more bullish: 19 stocks with a market capitalization of $10 billion-plus are trading for more than 10 times sales. That's the most I've seen since the top of the market in 2000.

You might (rightfully) wonder why I see these hyper-bullish conditions as a negative. You have to remember... our indicators are contrarian.

We know when sentiment is at a bullish peak, it has nowhere to go but down. When credit can't get any cheaper, it's bound to become more expensive sooner or later. And when individuals have already spent their cash reserves on stocks, it's unlikely they'll be able to keep buying at the same pace.

In short, as investing legend Warren Buffett once said, to invest successfully, you must be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful.

You have to know when conditions have become overheated. You have to know when to stand aside.

Without a doubt, this is one of those moments.

It's not only our proprietary indicators that have me worried. U.S. stocks have become very expensive – far more expensive than most people realize. The median price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio on the S&P 500 is now at a record-high level, eclipsing its peak from 2000.

This is important because it speaks to the generally high level of equity prices.

Back in 2000, only a handful of large-cap names traded at huge P/E ratios. That's what pushed the average P/E to nearly 50. But the median P/E never got that high... and is a better reflection of the true, broad price of U.S. stocks.

Other historically reliable gauges of value – like the Shiller P/E – are also at record-high levels – above 25. Likewise, the total stock market capitalization compared with U.S. GDP is also at an all-time high. Now, you might quibble with these measures of value.

Shiller, for example, uses a 10-year-average earnings figure, a number that is unusually low because of the big accounting losses seen in 2009. I'd argue that in nearly every 10-year period, we'll see a similar stretch of earnings losses. Whatever issues there are with the index's make-up, it has been a statistically accurate indicator of future returns.

The same goes for the market-cap-to-GDP figure and the median P/E figure. All of these valuation measures and all of my proprietary indicators tell me the same thing: money put into stocks now, at these high levels, is unlikely to produce a positive return.

The problem with this market isn't just the number of very expensive stocks. There's a bona fide dearth of value. Anyone who expects a significant margin of safety when buying a stock isn't going to find much to look at in today's market.

Investment-research firm Value Line reports the lowest median three- to five-year appreciation potential among all the stocks it covers. According to Value Line, there's less value in the market today than there was in 2000 or 2007.

So what happens when record numbers of expensive stocks and a record lack of value collides with record enthusiasm for stocks and a Fed hell-bent on moving cash into the stock market?

It's not going to be pretty.

Last week, the percentage of investment advisors reporting themselves "bearish" on the market fell to just 14.3% of the Value Line survey – the lowest level seen in the last 25 years.

Looking at the historical record, the only other time when stocks were this expensive and there were so few professional bears was January 1973 – before the market fell 50%.

The only years when sentiment was this overwhelmingly bullish and stocks were almost this expensive were: 1972, 1987, and 2007. Those were very bad times to buy stocks.

Two last points…

One, margin debt at the New York Stock Exchange is now at the highest level in history – at 2.5% of U.S. GDP. The amount borrowed against stocks to buy stocks is now equal to more than 25% of the entire commercial and industrial loans in the U.S. This is an accident waiting to happen.

Two, the pros know exactly what's coming and when it's going to start falling apart: New equity issuance is running at the fastest pace since the 2000 bubble peak. Insiders don't sell when stocks are cheap.

In my view, the margin debt figure guarantees we'll see a crash, not merely a correction. And don't forget, nearly every large investor today is being driven to buy because of the same macro factor – the Fed.

Many investors continue to buy equity securities merely because they know other investors will be driven out of fixed-income due to the Fed's bond-buying program. I'd estimate the Fed is driving at least 75% of individual investors today.

What will happen when the Fed stops? Markets don't handle massive changes in sentiment well because everyone cannot sell at the same time. The combination of record levels of margin debt and so many investors simply following the Fed is going to cause a historic rush for the exits.

Believe me: people will panic. And it won't be a flash crash, either. Make sure you're not waiting until that moment to sell, because there might not be a reasonable bid for your stock.

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发表于 2013-12-20 07:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-12-20 07:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
谁说的?牛市结束, 熊市开始?
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发表于 2013-12-20 07:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
还是85B, 一分钱不少呢。
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发表于 2013-12-20 08:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
这种文章像笑话一样,现在还有相信熊市的,那真是要输得精光了。跟政府斗,下场可想而知。
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发表于 2013-12-20 08:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 5883 于 2013-12-20 09:09 PM 编辑

已经不相信2年之内有熊市了。

今天跟4个朋友在一起吃饭,他们是合同工,大家说工资收入比10年前还少点,物价涨了很多,heating oil从1刀涨到近4刀。
就这样你们还说经济很好。
有这样不要脸的政府,我特么的已经不相信有熊市了。

国内房价涨10年,米国股市涨10年。
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发表于 2013-12-20 10:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-12-21 02:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-12-23 12:00 PM | 显示全部楼层
疯牛不怕吓
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发表于 2013-12-23 12:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
5883 发表于 2013-12-20 09:47 PM
已经不相信2年之内有熊市了。

今天跟4个朋友在一起吃饭,他们是合同工,大家说工资收入比10年前还少点, ...

contract rate no change since 2000
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