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[讨论] 大胆做多房地产指数 -- 跌就是机会!

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发表于 2013-5-28 03:53 PM | 显示全部楼层


   
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发表于 2013-5-28 06:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
nm, 买完就大跌。
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发表于 2013-5-28 07:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
5883 发表于 2013-5-28 06:36 PM
nm, 买完就大跌。

谁让你今天就买呢
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发表于 2013-5-28 09:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-5-28 09:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
房市, 是套利的时候了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-28 10:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
America’s healthily idiosyncratic housing marketBy Felix Salmon
MAY 28, 2013






HOUSING
This is the chart of US Case-Shiller prices. You can click to enlarge it, but sometimes it helps to take a step back: The thicker blue line is a composite of 10 cities, the red line is a composite of 20 cities, and the medium-weight green line, for you locals, is New York City.
This isn’t the chart you’re possibly familiar with, the one showing the sharp spike upwards in the past few months. That chart measures year-on-year gains; this one shows absolute levels, with January 2000 arbitrarily set as the 100 point.
The messages from this chart are different from the ebullient headlines you might be seeing elsewhere. The first message is that house prices aren’t suddenly soaring again: we had a big bubble from about mid-1997 to mid-2006, whe then had a big crash from mid-2006 to mid-2009, and since then we’ve basically just been wiggling sideways: nationwide house prices now are basically back to where they were at the beginning of 2009.
The second message is that there are massive regional variations, as you’d expect in a country the size of the USA. After setting every city equal to 100 in January 2000, the range today is enormous: it goes from 81, in Detroit, to 190, in Washington. And for all the bidding-war anecdotes in chattering-class circles about houses selling in one day for way above the asking price, there’s not much sign of frothiness here: indeed, New York prices actually fell in March.
All of this is good news. The last thing we need is another housing bubble, or any hint that we’re moving back towards a world where housing costs comprise a disproportionate part of the typical family’s monthly budget. Affordable housing is good for everybody, and if you see housing costs spiraling out of reach, that’s bad for the economy; it’s not amazing good news. Yes, it might be aconsequence of a healthy economy — although it might equally just be a consequence of new home construction failing to keep up with demand. But it’s not in any way a leading indicator when it comes to broad-based growth; quite the opposite.
We’re also seeing a healthy degree of divergence between cities — and, as those chattering classes will tell you, between neighborhoods within cities, as well. “Property” is not some all-encompassing asset class; different houses in different cities are going to be worth different amounts, and their value is going to fluctuate in different ways. When all house prices start behaving the same way, and correlations start tending towards 1, that’s a good sign you’re either in a bubble or a bust.
The Case-Shiller index, by its nature, attempts to boil down the richly varied set of American housing markets, both between and within cities, to a single number. At one point, Robert Shiller even tried to sell derivatives based on the index, by which homeowners could try to hedge the value of their property, and non-homeowners could try to hedge the risk that prices would move out of reach. They never took off, for various good reasons.
In a reasonably healthy market, property prices tend towards the idiosyncratic — at the level of the individual property, at the neighborhood level, and at the municipal level. Looking at the Case-Shiller numbers, I’d say that today’s market is healthily idiosyncratic, and that even the city-by-city data hides an enormous amount of neighborh0od-level variation. So don’t generalize from today’s numbers — but do feel heartened by them, all the same.


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 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-28 10:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
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房指没过热。
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发表于 2013-5-28 10:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2013-5-28 10:14 PM
房指没过热。

Looks CA house price is tooooo hoooot.
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发表于 2013-5-28 10:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
<<加州再刮炒房风 房价持续上涨 恐怕吹出房市泡沫>>

华尔街日报报导,美国加州房价持续上涨已助长炒房(house flipping)风气再起,这类炒作被部分人士认为正是吹涨房市泡沫的元凶。
  不动产资讯公司PropertyRadar指出,近来数月美国加州炒房卖出的房屋(即购入六个月内就转卖的房屋),数量已来到2005年底以来最高水准。今年截至4月,加州出于炒房目的而售出的房屋约6,000户,占全州售出房屋的比率超过5%。

  虽然美国各地都再度兴起炒房热,经纪商表示,炒房交易大多发生在过去一年房价大幅上涨的加州。房地产网站Zillow 指出,过去一年美国房价涨幅前十大的大城市中,有六个位于加州。加州圣荷西、旧金山和沙加缅度4月的房价比一年前上涨25%,洛杉矶则涨18%。

  Beacon经济公司经济学家索恩伯格说:「当房价上涨,炒房交易便能带来利润。」房价飙涨的原因是待售房屋供应短缺,部分原因是屋主不愿以比房价高峰时低很多的价格出售房屋。

  不动产业者对当今的炒房活动是否可能引发问题看法不一。不动产网站Trulia首席经济学家兼副总裁科尔克认为,这些活动不代表房市将泡沫化。他说:「泡沫化是指已经很高的房价持续飙升,我们还未走到这一步。」

  投资人间的竞争加剧,对一般买主而言并非好消息。三年前移居南加州的整形外科医师帕维斯发现,入门级买主在新港滩市负担得起的房屋很少;当地入门级房屋的价格可能是80 万美元起跳。他说:「我发现自己无法与这些投资人竞争。」
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发表于 2013-5-29 08:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-5-29 08:03 PM | 显示全部楼层
pdz 发表于 2013-5-29 07:53 AM
IYR 好弱啊,昨天尾盘买进今天就套牢了.为什么最近明显弱于大盘? 资金出逃? 和QE结束有关?

会很快解套的。MM要给大资金上车的机会。

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谢谢老大  发表于 2013-5-29 08:26 PM

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发表于 2013-5-30 09:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
$65 is better entry point

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发表于 2013-5-30 10:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2013-5-30 07:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
周线IYR已经破位,到65再抄底是安全的选择。REIT看上去没有IYR那么明显,可看到HCP,继续下跌没啥好商量的。
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发表于 2013-5-30 08:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
今天 IYR 盘后涨了近 1%。
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发表于 2013-5-31 01:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
葡萄柚 发表于 2013-5-30 08:14 PM
今天 IYR 盘后涨了近 1%。

看盘后的实际数据,没多大意义。


17:00          $ 70.21         917
16:42          $ 69.6501         600
16:18          $ 69.51          100
16:11          $ 69.70          400
16:08          $ 69.61          2,400
16:08          $ 69.61          1,000
16:08          $ 69.59          100
16:04          $ 69.56          1,000
16:03          $ 69.61          2,500
16:03          $ 69.61          2,600
16:03          $ 69.60          100
16:03          $ 69.61          100
16:03          $ 69.60          400
16:03          $ 69.60          700
16:03          $ 69.56          500
16:03          $ 69.56          900
16:03          $ 69.56          200
16:03          $ 69.56          700
16:01          $ 69.9864         28,600
16:01          $ 69.56          200
16:01          $ 69.55          1,000
16:00          $ 69.50          2,000

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发表于 2013-5-31 12:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
城市人口越来越多,又印了这么多钱,房价只有一条路可走了。
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发表于 2013-5-31 03:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
pick some IYR today.  
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