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[放炮] 其实今天最耸人听闻的消息手机居然忘了转发

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-7-24 11:19 PM | 显示全部楼层


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Cobra 发表于 2012-7-24 10:53 PM
不明白,这应该是利好啊。债市没有收益,钱只能往股市跑啊。

不明白这为什么是逼Fed出手。除非到8月1号 ...



Agree. The money will come out of debt market and hopeful into equity market, sooner or later. But how soon? Yield can go from low to lower. You believe in the trend, do you? Is the long term yield in down or up trend? It is hard to bet on a turnaround. Japan 10Y yield has been a little more than 1.0% for two decades. US 10Y treasury yield has reached my target for 2012. But I didn't see European crisis can resurface so soon. I was expecting to see SPX set new high in August before taking the dive. Maybe we still have the chance to see new high in 2012, if Fed can give QE3.

Regarding to why Fed needs to do something in July/31 and Aug/01 meeting. This is a question of chicken and egg: does the market lead Fed or Fed leads the market? I would rather to look at their relationship as a correlated or cooperative one than a simple causation-effect one. Sometimes, Fed leads the market. Sometimes Fed simply yields to the market expectation, being afraid the market will plunge if its expectation not met. After all, chairman Ben truly believes that animal spirits can be triggered from a high-soaring equity market.

Since June/22 Fed announcement, the shrinking spread between treasury and MBS has clearly indicated market is expecting incoming QE3 to purchase MBS. But the rates rally in the past week is demonstrating again the flight to safety. Who is buying, we will see the data soon. So if there are mighty MMs, they should help plunge the market further so to give Mr. Ben a good excuse to take out QE3 from his magic hat under.
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发表于 2012-7-25 10:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
lite1067 发表于 2012-7-24 11:19 PM
Agree. The money will come out of debt market and hopeful into equity market, sooner or later. ...

就是说你还是同意,要暴跌才有可能QE3。问题是现在FOMC pre-run,可能不跌反涨,一直到Fed开会。

你昨天说yield低对股市是个大坏事,跟我的理解相反,我昨天还特意写信去请教专家,结果专家都不敢回答,专家又去请教更专家,到现在都没有敢回答。我们以为你有什么新理论呢。
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发表于 2012-7-25 10:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2012-7-25 11:00 AM
就是说你还是同意,要暴跌才有可能QE3。问题是现在FOMC pre-run,可能不跌反涨,一直到Fed开会。

你昨 ...

OMG!

现在天下不太平呀,是非黑白可以完全颠倒过来,就看MM怎么解读了。

套用我们的经典:

说你行,不行也行;
说你不行,行也不行。

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-7-25 04:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2012-7-25 10:00 AM
就是说你还是同意,要暴跌才有可能QE3。问题是现在FOMC pre-run,可能不跌反涨,一直到Fed开会。

你昨 ...

I am not gonna play broad mkt index when long bond yield is still spinning downwards around historical lows. Low interest rates would have different effects on different sectors. Sector rotation is the key.
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