请问哪里有比较好的trading培训班？有人同去吗？

losemind

请问哪里有比较好的trading培训班？有人同去吗？

我想利用假期，去找个比较好的trading培训班进修一下，

尤其是global macro方面的，

请大家推荐一下，谢谢。

ranchgirl

肯定有好的，但是骗子很多。。。。。。

价格可能在数千至数万之多。。。

问问yaobuyao大哥，他好像最近参加过一次训练，反映好像不赖。

losemind

yaobuyao大哥请介绍一下非常感谢。

soulvirus

偶觉得不需要什么培训。 需要天天看班长的贴。 看他如何根据指标得出结论。 这个已经比大部分培训班强很多了。 然后就是学操作。

ranchgirl

I will not go to training class since I cannot learn much from that kind of concentrated course, even it is a good one.

I need to learn in my own pace, I will learn a lot better in my own way.

yaobooyao

我那不是什么培训班。 你随便找个DT Firm 去做一个月trainee， 就等于培训了。不过，别人也许什么也不会教你，但是在DT公司， 一天你可能做上百个交易（我的记录是一天196个交易，老板还说不够多），一个月下来，等于你十年的股票交易量了，动手的体会就多很多。 兴许，你就爱上这一行了。

收钱的所谓的股票交易速成班， 千万别去花冤枉钱。 股市如赌场， 有听说过赌钱培训班的吗？

我的体会：
1。 自己看书，学习一下技术分析、看图、交易策略，风险管理。
2。可以作一些paper trading， 验证所学的技巧和自己的交易策略。
3。觉得OK，可以适当在真实交易中采用所学的技巧和paper trading 验证的策略。
4。开始的交易周期可以放长一些，选择波动不是很剧烈的股票品种。

最后，说明一下， Day Trading 看起来很容易赚钱，其实操作起来不是所想象的那样容易，千万别脑子一热，放25K$ 开一个Day Trading Account，一脑袋扎进去。

google

我那不是什么培训班。 你随便找个DT Firm 去做一个月trainee， 就等于培训了。不过，别人也许什么也不会教你 ...
yaobooyao 发表于 2010-4-2 18:54

严重建议要不要把这个题目展开一下，大家鼓掌欢迎

ranchgirl

我那不是什么培训班。 你随便找个DT Firm 去做一个月trainee， 就等于培训了。不过，别人也许什么也不会教你，但是在DT公司，一天你可能做上百个交易（我的记录是一天196个交易，老板还说不够多），一个月下来，等于你十年的股票交易量了，动手的体会就多很多。兴许，你就爱上这一行了。
yaobooyao 发表于 2010-4-2 18:54

Thank you for your answer.

I am confused, who makes the trading decisions for you, or you, the "trainee"self make the desicion?

The firm dare to let you do it? Or you just do the labor work,  some software to make the decision?

yaobooyao

Thank you for your answer.

I am confused, who makes the trading decisions for you, or you,  ...
ranchgirl 发表于 2010-4-2 19:06

Day Trader makes his own decision in real time.  Nobody can do it for you except yourself.  DT Firms set very tight daily max loss($20 ~ $500 depends on your ability), once you hit the line, you are out rest of the day. So you can see everything about Day Trading is not about making money, it's about control the loss. Any trading is like that.

So the math is simple now,  let's say you can't loss more than $20 a day:
1. If your average loss/trade is $2 (2cents per share, 100 shares per trade),  you can afford to lose 10 trades in a row as the worst case scenario.
2. If your average loss/trade is $5, your chance will be much less.
3. If your average loss/trade is $10, you can be wiped off before 9:45am, that's 15min after the open.
Ask yourself, what's the best strategy here?  Limit loss to $2/trade or $5/trade?  Is $2 loss/trade possible? Is it too tight? If so, how to trade?

ranchgirl

回复 9# yaobooyao

"everything about Day Trading is not about making money, it's about control the loss. Any trading is like that."

Totally agree!!!!

However, are you trading for the companies' client account? Do you need to pass a test before you start to work for them as a trainee?

manhattan

<$20 max loss per day is impossible for beginner...

H@T

青蛙我坐好听大家展开说说。谢谢楼上各位的意见。

yaobooyao

manhattan 发表于 2010-4-2 19:20

Unfortunately, $20 is very likely the max loss for a beginner.

yaobooyao

回复  yaobooyao

"everything about Day Trading is not about making money, it's about control the  ...
ranchgirl 发表于 2010-4-2 19:19

DT firms don't have kind of clients,  they provide traders with capital &platform, the traders do the trading for the firm.

ranchgirl

DT firms don't have kind of clients,  they provide traders with capital &platform, the traders do the trading for the firm.
yaobooyao 发表于 2010-4-2 19:36

Very interesting, and started to make some sense.

Because the strict loss control, Statistically, the firm will make money with free labors.

Wow, never heard this story before...

yaobooyao

Very interesting, and started to make some sense.

Because the strict loss control, Statistica ...
ranchgirl 发表于 2010-4-2 19:41

Smart Ranchgirl!  Now you fully got it.

sooners

回复 6# yaobooyao


   

ranchgirl

Ask yourself, what's the best strategy here?  Limit loss to $2/trade or $5/trade?  Is $2 loss/trade possible? Is it too tight? If so, how to trade?
yaobooyao 发表于 2010-4-2 19:10

Dear yaobuyao brother

Can you answer this question? I think it will give me some excellent ideas in trading. Even I am not a day trader.

I beg you...........      

yaobooyao

Dear yaobuyao brother

Can you answer this question? I think it will give me some excellent id ...
ranchgirl 发表于 2010-4-2 19:54

Sorry, I have to say - " There is no absolute answer existing in the world" .  The dollar value in max loss is truly about trading style and strategy:

I use absolute loss per share:

1. $0.02 / share loss max  -  you are a scalper, you average gain per share could also be limited.
2. $0.05~0.10 / share loss max - you are a swing day trader, momentum is the only friend you can trust.
3. > $0.10 /share loss max  - you shouldn't do day trade.  Imagine you trade 1000 share / trade,  your loss is $100/trade,  you can't afford to do it 10 rounds a day. ( I saw someone got wiped out every single day, just because of holding loss won't cut it. )

To the extreme,  I saw some guys specialized in trading stocks like  C,  they are doing large size trade ( 300K shares/trade), they can't afford loss a penny, absolutely NO.

ranchgirl

回复 19# yaobooyao

mmmmmmh, laoda

You really have given me some wonderful ideas in my trade, even I don't do day trading. I knew it.......