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发表于 2009-6-12 02:04 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15456&size=A

Ok, this was rumored several days ago, but now I can find actual news reports - at least, outside the US:

    Milan (AsiaNews) –  Italy’s financial police (Guardia italiana di Finanza) has seized US bonds worth US 134.5 billion from two Japanese nationals at Chiasso (40 km from Milan) on the border between Italy and Switzerland. They include 249 US Federal Reserve bonds worth US$ 500 million each, plus ten Kennedy bonds and other US government securities worth a billion dollar each.

Those sound like Bearer Bonds - at least the Kennedy ones do.

We no longer issue those (nor does pretty much anyone else) for obvious reasons - they're essentially money and can be had in VERY large size, making them great vehicles for various illegal enterprises.

But folks: This is $134.5 billion dollars worth.

If they're real, what government (the only entity that would have such a cache) is trying to unload them?

If they're fake, this is arguably the biggest counterfeiting operation ever, by a factor of many times.  I've seen news about various counterfeiting operations over the years that have made me chuckle, but this one, if that's what it is, is absolutely jaw-dropping.

The cute part of this is that if the certificates are real Italy just got a hell of a bonanza - their money laundering laws provide for a statutory 40% penalty for failure to declare instruments and cash in excess of $10,000 Euros, which means they'd garner a close-to-$40 billion dollar windfall.

That ought to help their budget problems!

Notice, by the way, that the US Media has totally ignored this story - even though the securities in question are allegedly US instruments.

Gee, I wonder why?  Might the authorities know they're real and be just a wee bit nervous that disclosure of a sovereign attempting to covertly dump nearly $140 billion in debt could cause a wee bit of panic, given that we're running nearly $200 billion a month in deficits?

Inquiring minds want to know what's really going on here.
发表于 2009-6-12 02:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
The water is too deep.  
Actually, Bloomberg reported it today.
The resignation of Japan’s Interior Minister Kunio Hatoyama might also be related to this.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner on Friday will meet Japanese Finance Minister Kaoru Yosano and Russian Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin in Italy to discuss this.
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
$134.5 billion is the exact amount left in TARP fund.
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
LOL, I do not fully understand what is this story?

Can you explain a little more? Two Japanese guys hold 130B US bond? How?
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
there must be a hidden agenda. Each note has a number so it's extremely difficult to fake, if possible at tall
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
Every detail of this story is so strange and shocking.  If it's a true story, I guess noboday can explain it, and normal people like us will never know how and why this story occured.

LOL, I do not fully understand what is this story?

Can you explain a little more? Two Japanese guys hold 130B US bond? How?
dara 发表于 2009-6-12 16:14
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
Nobody will spend time to counterfeit bonds with $500 million and $1 billion face value.  There is absolutely no way for people to sell such kind of bond.  It's said that the largest face value for public US bond is $1 million.

LOL, I do not fully understand what is this story?

Can you explain a little more? Two Japanese guys hold 130B US bond? How?
dara 发表于 2009-6-12 16:14
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
1# ppteam


最后的评语是您给的?
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
Maybe Japanese are dumping their US assets in a covert manner, then only Chinese will hold US assets (as Brazil and Russia are dumping US assets in a public manner)
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
10# bayliner1979


意大利的黑手党手上一大堆现金,需要找地方洗干净。
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
10# bayliner1979


I'd rather believe those notes are fake. The scam has happened before:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/ne ... 9999-7m10bonds.html

Conspiracy theory is more exciting though
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发表于 2009-6-12 03:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
10# bayliner1979


意大利的黑手党手上一大堆现金,需要找地方洗干净。
dividend_growth 发表于 2009-6-12 16:53


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 楼主| 发表于 2009-6-12 06:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
9# Brainteaser

no, I copied and pasted.
But, I 100% don't trust US govt and media.

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发表于 2009-6-12 07:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
9# Brainteaser

no, I copied and pasted.
But, I 100% don't trust US govt and media.


ppteam 发表于 2009-6-12 19:43



啥时候,我们国家也这样,就真让人担心了.
现在偶们国家真的假的,老百姓一听就知道哈.
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发表于 2009-6-13 06:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15456&size=A

Ok, this was rumored several days ago, but now I can find actual news reports - at least, outside the US:

Milan (AsiaNews) –  Italy’s financial police (Guardia italiana di Finanza) has seized US bonds worth US 134.5 billion
ppteam 发表于 2009-6-12 03:04 PM


MAMMA MIA!
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发表于 2009-6-13 08:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
ppteam老大,如果美国政府可以相信,那么就不会有海外黑狱,不会有杀达姆崛起,不会有南斯拉夫崩溃。现在世界上一半的战争和冲突还有死亡,就是这个号称最先进的国家在参与。


9# Brainteaser

no, I copied and pasted.
But, I 100% don't trust US govt and media.


ppteam 发表于 2009-6-12 19:43
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发表于 2009-6-13 08:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
越来越有趣了
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发表于 2009-6-13 11:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
It's just getting interesting.
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发表于 2009-6-14 12:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
thanks
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