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FaceBooK 陈勤 2019 年 自杀 的 老故事. 不过我今天才知道.

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本帖最后由 ranchgirl 于 2021-6-21 06:38 PM 编辑

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Chinese Facebook Engineer Commits Suicide: Is a Job Worth Dying For?Categories:OPINION Gabriel Li Posted onOctober 13, 2019
October 16, 2019hen Chinese internet workers are complaining about the 996 working schedule in the tech giants in China, horrible things are also happening to tech workers across the Pacific Ocean.

On September 19, 2019, a Chinese engineer from Facebook jumped off the fourth floor of Facebook’s headquarters on Jefferson Drive, in Menlo Park.

The 38-year old named Chen Qin was a graduate from Zhejiang University, one of China’s best universities, and attended a two-year Computer Science program at the University of Southern California. He was a top student and kept hopping jobs every two years until he ended up in one of the world’s top tech firms Facebook. Before he died, he had worked there for one year and eight months.

Like many other Chinese tech workers in Silicon Valley, Chen was the pillar of his family, responsible for the heavy expenses of living in America, which contributes to the pressure of working in a high-paying company like Facebook. His family told the media that it was not unusual for him to stay up until midnight for a project and then resume work the next morning.

Judging by his presence on social media, Chen was not a nerdy straight-A student. He loved climbing, hiking, skiing and other outdoor sports. His Facebook profile photo is one of himself enjoying mountain climbing, in which he seems rather delighted and relaxed. His Facebook updates stopped as of March 5, 2018, which coincides with his first day at Facebook.
“Done is better than perfect” has been Facebook’s motto over the years, with an underlying results-orientated mentality. Though it is unfair to relate this suicide case directly to corporate culture, it has everything to do with stressful and unfair workplace treatment. According to Chen’s coworkers, the day before Chen’s death, during the department meetings, the director scolded Chen for the procrastination of his project. Somebody heard the director say “get out”, and Chen argued back “it’s unfair”.
In Silicon Valley, employees who don’t show competitive working results are enlisted in the Performance Improvement Plan (PIP). As the name implies, PIP seems to bear the goal of elevating employees’ performances. However, the truth is that anyone that fails to pass the PIP will likely be fired. According to an article on Forbes entitled The Truth About ‘Performance Improvement Plans’, “when your boss gets mad at you and puts you on a Performance Improvement Plan, the last thing on his or her mind is improving your performance. Instead of a Performance Improvement Plan, it should be called This is the First Step Toward Firing You Plan, because that is what’s happening.”

On September 23, Patrick Shyu, Youtube blogger and a Japanese engineer that previously worked at both Facebook and Google exposed some of the details in a video called “Facebook Employee Suicide Cover-up”.

From the information in an internal Facebook group, “It is clear that Facebook leadership wants to push this suicide case under the rug.” In the video, Shyu explained further from the information he gathered from insiders that Chen was actually betrayed by his manager at the advertising group, who convinced him to stay on this team until the end of the quarter, and promised to give him a good performance rating for this quarter before he could transfer to another team. In the end, the manager failed to keep his promise and gave him a “Meets Most” rating, which is known internally as the worst rating realistically handed out to employees, thus blocking him from transferring to other teams. And if this turns out to be true, then it could be defined as serious workplace bullying.

After this tragedy broke out, Facebook issued a public notice, saying they have confirmed that one of the employees has passed away. Other than that, the leadership at Facebook seems to be more concerned about silencing other employees. Yi Yin, a Chinese Tsinghua graduate and a senior software engineer at Facebook, was dismissed from the company on October 7 due to “lack of judgement”, but more accurately due to his active participation in a protest of Facebook’s toxic work environment that contributed to Chen’s death. On the site of the protest, Yin was waving his work card excitedly and making statements in front of everyone.
Yi wrote on LinkedIn with an almost cheerful tone, “Thank you all for your concern. I’m alright after the protest, the interviews and asking the company to disclose the truth. I’ve been under a little pressure here. I received a final warning letter (from the company), planned to have it mounted and framed, and hung on the bedroom wall. Update: I have been officially fired and have now returned to freedom.”

Under the LinkedIn post there are tons of replies concerning job offers and recommendations from tech companies like Alibaba and NetEase. It seems that there are so many better ways of dealing with unfair treatment than death. Apart from workplace bullying and the pressure that comes with an H-1B visa, Chen may have been suffering from depression or other mental health issues. Unfortunately, it is probably too late to find out.

 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-21 06:36 PM | 显示全部楼层



Chinese Facebook Engineer Commits Suicide: Is a Job Worth Dying For?


我比较喜欢这个标题. 能引起大家认真思考.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-21 06:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
又想起了最近的 复旦 姜文华 他杀 事件
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发表于 2021-6-21 07:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
听说过。 没有姜的传播面大。

小札很聪明的, 保安费巨大。
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发表于 2021-6-21 08:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 td2020 于 2021-6-21 06:17 PM 编辑

这和facebook 没关系。我曾经呆过的一家公司比facebook疯狂多了去了。我们是每个季度强行打分,然后cut bottom performers. 根本不给你improve的机会, 也没见到谁su.
而且当年我自己就认识好几个老中h1b被裁的。人家不一样活得好好的。而且事实上有不少人后来活得更好。

当年我是好几次见到同一层楼的同事早上高高兴兴来上班, 没多久就由保安给带出公司的, 想想也是真的很残酷。 

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发表于 2021-6-21 10:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
办公室里面不留私人物品,将来走的时候轻轻松松,不用大盒子抱着滚蛋

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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-21 10:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
现在年轻人太脆弱了。 可能和独生子女教育方法有关系
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-21 10:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
我被 laidoff 过2次。在 IT 行业里,好像很少人没有过这样的经历。
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Luckycato 发表于 2021-6-21 10:18 PM
办公室里面不留私人物品,将来走的时候轻轻松松,不用大盒子抱着滚蛋

员工到这份上也就不会全力以赴了。

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发表于 2021-6-21 11:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
北美的这种残酷的雇主与职员关系也使得不少人变着法在岗上防着兔死狗烹,这种浪费是极其巨大的。

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本帖最后由 Luckycato 于 2021-6-21 11:53 PM 编辑
fzfz 发表于 2021-6-21 11:00 PM
员工到这份上也就不会全力以赴了。


自己心里明白就是一个打工人,随时准备好离开,自己经常活动活动,有机会就人往高处走。。有时候归属感强不是好事

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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-22 03:28 AM | 显示全部楼层
Luckycato 发表于 2021-6-21 11:45 PM
自己心里明白就是一个打工人,随时准备好离开,自己经常活动活动,有机会就人往高处走。。有时候归属感 ...

good point. I learned these truth in the past.
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发表于 2021-6-22 04:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
ranchgirl 发表于 2021-6-21 10:42 PM
我被 laidoff 过2次。在 IT 行业里,好像很少人没有过这样的经历。

只有两次,你太幸运了

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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-22 07:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ranchgirl 于 2021-6-22 07:59 AM 编辑
foolmelon 发表于 2021-6-22 04:58 AM
只有两次,你太幸运了


因为我早期经常主动跳槽,每次还加工资。后来年龄大了,还有些很 special skills, 就干脆当 contractor 了, 直至退休。

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发表于 2021-6-22 08:03 AM | 显示全部楼层
Lay-off 对我来说是个好事,拿个package, 转身就能找个new job, 工资还能涨不少,那个package 就是额外的bonus. 常常是看到好机会自己就走了,等不及lay-off

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发表于 2021-6-22 10:30 AM | 显示全部楼层
fzfz 发表于 2021-6-21 09:07 PM
北美的这种残酷的雇主与职员关系也使得不少人变着法在岗上防着兔死狗烹,这种浪费是极其巨大的。


你以为中国就好了?

现在中国那些科技企业比硅谷黑多了去了。
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ranchgirl 发表于 2021-6-22 07:57 AM
因为我早期经常主动跳槽,每次还加工资。后来年龄大了,还有些很 special skills, 就干脆当 contracto ...

钱挣够了,退休,牛人!
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-6-22 12:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ranchgirl 于 2021-6-22 12:06 PM 编辑
foolmelon 发表于 2021-6-22 11:45 AM
钱挣够了,退休,牛人!


Not as what you guessed, I was old. I was looking very young than my real age , then suddenly not any more.

That is real life, someday, you will become old too.

I am still very Happy

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