有没有正在或者打算 职业炒美股的，请互通信息。

九天

听说 QQ: 54770238 提供的一个 信息，

1，可以远程开户，在家交易。
2，可选择laser或者stelring，jmx等专业交易软件，手续费最低廉，sterling1万股1元清算。
3，不用自己的资金，月赢利$3000以上个人提成75% ；团队（3人起）更高。

免责声明，我本人目前没有计划职业炒美股，仅供立志从事 快速 证卷交易的胡同居民 参考，不承担任何后果。
欢迎准确理解这类信息的胡同居民 详细报告。

silicon_beaver

Thanks for the information.

It's my dream.  

rightonmoney

Thanks for the information.

It was my dream.   

胡一刀

一般都要交管理费的，而且只能DT

snowrider

請問什麼是 "不用自己的资金" ?  是代操嗎?

九天

snowrider 发表于 2012-9-6 03:17 PM
請問什麼是 "不用自己的资金" ?  是代操嗎?

这个我也只是道听途说，就是公司根据交易员的信用给Buy Power。
去年在胡同见过 有人发过几个贴子，记得他的BP是50万美元。
可惜当时我没有产生兴趣，没有请教。
据说公司给新学员的BP是500美元。自己在家里交易，可能开始也是500美元吧。
所以我想打听一下，请有经验的胡同居民介绍一下，咱们学习一下。

snowrider

九天 发表于 2012-9-6 04:05 PM
这个我也只是道听途说，就是公司根据交易员的信用给Buy Power。
去年在胡同见过 有人发过几个贴子，记得 ...

謝謝!  50W倒還不錯!

九天

胡一刀 发表于 2012-9-6 03:03 PM
一般都要交管理费的，而且只能DT

好像大陆的高手，嫌公司分成，就自己回家单干，这时要缴管理费。

一般交易员，是打工仔，到公司上班，赚钱跟公司分成，其他公司管。
如果交易员赔了，他们有风险控制。

加拿大的公司叫SW，是最早进入大陆的。目前美国Sterling公司在大陆比较活跃，
Sterling可以申请1级代理，大概5000美元压金吧。
http://www.sterlingtrader.com/ch ... ing_platforms2.html

greenback

So you don't think the 100% yearly gain by DDD is exciting enough? You can get it by STing without being a full time trader.

九天

greenback 发表于 2012-9-6 04:34 PM
So you don't think the 100% yearly gain by DDD is exciting enough? You can get it by STing without b ...

Sure， it is enough for 100% yearly gain.  
A Buy Power of 0,5 Million US$ is exciting too. 特别好奇。

greenback

九天 发表于 2012-9-6 06:03 PM
Sure， it is enough for 100% yearly gain.  
A Buy Power of 0,5 Million US$ is exciting too. 特别好 ...

You can't buy a single stock with $1/2 million, you need to simultaneously trade several different stocks in your DTing. Otherwise, you'll be monitored by big sharks ... So you will be very busy as a pro DTer. Note also that you are volunteering yourself to be a foot soldier for your trading firm.

九天

greenback 发表于 2012-9-6 11:11 PM
You can't buy a single stock with $1/2 million, you need to simultaneously trade several different ...

You are right. Trading is an Art. Only about 5% of people who are itelligant enough such as you are succssful in trading Securies. I am shamed to say that I do not belong to such a Artist.
But all Roads Lead to Rome. And I have a dream.
More than 70% Securities are trading with programming today.
编程是技术，谁都可以学习掌握，熟能生巧。而对于80%本来注定是输家的股民，用程序交易可能是唯一生存的出路，
打破股市二八定律。
计算机辅助技术4，炒股编程讨论
http://www.hutong9.net/forum.php ... &extra=page%3D1

九天

Day Trading Still Alive, Outsourced to China

来源，http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/1 ... html?pagewanted=all
......
By some industry estimates, as many as 10,000 people in China are doing
speculative day trading of American stocks — mostly aggressive young men
working the wee hours here, from 9:30 p.m. to 4 a.m.,
often trading tens of thousands of shares a day.
.....
请胡同朋友给我们内部介绍一下，咱们在国外的条件比那10000国内的朋友好多了。

phph

detailed info please.
who is this qq 54770238 guy? your friend?
how much initial buying power?

九天

附议，detailed info please. 我对这个问题突然有兴趣了，知无不言，可是丑话说在前，目前都是道听途说。
qq 54770238 可能是大陆众多交易公司之一吧，我跟他们没有任何关系。
我主要关心，手续费真的那么便宜吗。我得缴多少钱才能开个帐户，就是在家里自由交易的那种账户。

Forevergreen

那这些公司在美国为啥 不大肆找人呢？ 还是国内法规税收方面监管漏洞更多？

九天

Forevergreen 发表于 2012-9-7 06:41 AM
那这些公司在美国为啥 不大肆找人呢？ 还是国内法规税收方面监管漏洞更多？

我也纳闷。nytimes.com是纽约时报吧，挺老的报社，采访应该可靠，也说有10000老中大战美股，
胡同的朋友出来指教我们一下。谁记得去年发过几个帖说自己的BP是50万美元的那位胡同老大。

greenback

九天 发表于 2012-9-7 08:02 AM
我也纳闷。nytimes.com是纽约时报吧，挺老的报社，采访应该可靠，也说有10000老中大战美股，
胡同的朋友 ...

It's getting hard to recruit typical Americans to DT recently due to the lower profit. This is precisely because of the rising of high frequency trading (HFT) that is also your interest.

However, if you are interested in HFT, it's better apply for a job in one of the HFT firms. They have much better computers/algorithms/IT supports. In general, it's not for people working at home on a DSL network or the likes ...

silicon_beaver

greenback 发表于 2012-9-7 09:24 AM
It's getting hard to recruit typical Americans to DT recently due to the lower profit. This is p ...

---It's not for people working at home on a DSL network or the likes ...   

九天

greenback 发表于 2012-9-7 11:24 AM
It's getting hard to recruit typical Americans to DT recently due to the lower profit. This is p ...

TKS.
美国GS和法国大银行都逮捕雇员盗窃HFT源码，大陆留学生难进入HFT编程。

胡同居民可以利用市场上的可编程平台，实实在在，做力所能及的程序交易。一般都有DSL，光纤也不贵，我都有一条看电视的。

目前70%的交易是程序，相信今后更多小散做自动交易。
所以要关注各种交易平台和手续费等。比如2012年才出现的 MT5，从10月1号开始 程序交易比赛，大家可以报名参赛。
不用花钱。如果需要MQL5个别编程语句的讨论，胡同也可以开展交流。jamesmith和我上周五商量也要去参赛。
周末也写了一个简单源码，通过了Compile，策略是根据简单均线同时交易12个不同外汇对。

NinjaScript programming 口碑比较好，可是我没有经验，希望能有老大带一下，