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发表于 2012-8-10 10:29 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


1,不做垃圾
2,不做OPTIONS
3,不做不熟悉的个股

建议:
从灵活性和COST来看,做ETF
何谓ETF:
What Are ETFs?
In the simplest terms, Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) are funds that track indexes like the NASDAQ-100 Index, S&P 500, Dow Jones, etc. When you buy shares of an ETF, you are buying shares of a portfolio that tracks the yield and return of its native index. The main difference between ETFs and other types of index funds is that ETFs don't try to outperform their corresponding index, but simply replicate its performance. They don't try to beat the market, they try to be the market.

ETFs have been around since the early 1980s, but they've come into their own within the past 10 years.

Benefits
ETFs combine the range of a diversified portfolio with the simplicity of trading a single stock. Investors can purchase ETF shares on margin, short sell shares, or hold for the long term.

Passive Management - Harness the Market
The purpose of an ETF is to match a particular market index, leading to a fund management style known as passive management. Passive management is the chief distinguishing feature of ETFs, and it brings a number of advantages for investors in index funds. Essentially, passive management means the fund manager makes only minor, periodic adjustments to keep the fund in line with its index. This is quite different from an actively managed fund, like most mutual funds, where the manager continually trades assets in an effort to outperform the market. Because they are tied to a particular index, ETFs tend to cover a discrete number of stocks, as opposed to a mutual fund whose scope of investment is subject to continual change. For these reasons, ETFs mitigate the element of "managerial risk" that can make choosing the right fund difficult. Rather than investing in a fund manager, when you buy shares of an ETF you're harnessing the power of the market itself.

Cost-efficient and Tax-efficient
Because an ETF tracks an index without trying to outperform it, it incurs fewer administrative costs than actively managed portfolios. Typical ETF administrative costs are lower than an actively managed fund, coming in less than .20% per annum, as opposed to the over 1% yearly cost of some mutual funds. Because they incur low management and sponsor fees, and because they don't typically carry high sales loads, there are fewer recurring costs to diminish your returns.

Passive management is also an advantage in terms of tax efficiency. ETFs are less likely than actively managed portfolios to experience the trading of securities, which can create potentially high capital gains distributions. Fewer trades into and out of the trust mean fewer taxable distributions, and a more efficient overall return on investment.

Efficiency is one reason ETFs have become a favored vehicle for multiple investment strategies - because lower administrative costs and lower capital gains taxes put a greater share of your investment dollar to work for you in the market.

Flexibility
ETF shares trade exactly like stocks. Unlike index mutual funds, which are priced only after market closings, ETFs are priced and traded continuously throughout the trading day. They can be bought on margin, sold short, or held for the long-term, exactly like common stock. Yet because their value is based on an underlying index, ETFs enjoy the additional benefits of broader diversification than shares in single companies, as well as what many investors perceive as the greater flexibility that goes with investing in entire markets, sectors, regions, or asset types. Because they represent baskets of stocks, ETFs, or at least the ones based on major indexes, typically trade at much higher volumes than individual stocks. High trading volumes mean high liquidity, enabling investors to get into and out of investment positions with minimum risk and expense.

Long-Term Growth
It was in the late 1970s that investors and market watchers noticed a trend involving market indexes - the major indexes were consistently outperforming actively managed portfolio funds. In essence, according to these figures, market indexes make better investments than managed funds, and a buy-and-hold strategy is the best strategy to reap the advantages of investing in index growth.

How do indexes work?
A stock market index is a list of related stocks, together with statistics representing their aggregate value. It is used chiefly as a benchmark for indicating the value of its component stocks, as well as investment vehicles such as mutual funds that hold positions in those stocks. Indexes can be based on various categories of stocks. There are the widely known market indexes, such as the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the NASDAQ Composite, or the S&P 500. There are indexes based on market sectors, such as tech, healthcare, financial; foreign markets; market cap (micro-, small-, mid-, large-, and mega-cap); asset type (small growth, large growth, etc.); even commodities.

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发表于 2012-8-10 10:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
He-He, complete agree.
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发表于 2012-8-10 10:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
--- 1,不做垃圾   
--- 2,不做OPTIONS
        vol too low. time value, , , not play them a while.
--- 3,不做不熟悉的个股
        eng, absolutely.

That's I move to ES(Index) and ETF.   
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发表于 2012-8-10 10:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
老大,对您来说每年股市投资回报多少是可以接受的?
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发表于 2012-8-10 10:45 AM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-10 10:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
天地 发表于 2012-8-10 09:42 AM
老大,对您来说每年股市投资回报多少是可以接受的?

看你的口袋有多深。。。



口袋深的, 10%就够吃喝了吧。。
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发表于 2012-8-10 10:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2012-8-10 11:46 AM
看你的口袋有多深。。。


您以为,多深是多深?
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-10 11:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
天地 发表于 2012-8-10 09:52 AM
您以为,多深是多深?

我以为 1W是不深。。

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发表于 2012-8-10 11:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
强烈
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发表于 2012-8-10 12:13 PM | 显示全部楼层


多谢生产力老大.

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发表于 2012-8-10 12:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 九天 于 2012-8-10 02:17 PM 编辑
silicon_beaver 发表于 2012-8-10 11:37 AM
--- 1,不做垃圾   
--- 2,不做OPTIONS
        vol too low. time value, , , not play them ...


2,不做OPTIONS

报告牛哥,已经出现 第三代 OPTIONS, 叫MINI  Long, MINI Short, 没有 time value。
可是我试过几次,Long  NG 输,Long  EURUSD 输,Long  股指输,。。。我怎么命就这么差。
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发表于 2012-8-10 02:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
九天 发表于 2012-8-10 10:49 AM
2,不做OPTIONS

报告牛哥,已经出现 第三代 OPTIONS, 叫MINI  Long, MINI Short, 没有 time val ...

九天, you are a HH so let's discuss something in detail.  

If really do options, SPY is one I would consider. Hi-vol, easy to liquidate.
I have about 400 ETF on my watch radar. At least run weekly screen, once a week. After I read ctcld Laoda's post here. I am thinking to post my ETF weekly here either, from this weekend. Stay on tune.
I still think ES is a best vehicle. But I don't have much to watch daily or play DT. So, at best, I am a ST player. So far, I didn't lose $$$ on ES, a reason I like it.

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发表于 2012-8-10 03:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2012-8-10 03:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
不做澳颇深,就没有指望超过巴菲特那个老不死的了。
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本帖最后由 九天 于 2012-8-10 04:47 PM 编辑

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GS provides many MINI long for SP500, for example

GS6S5M

Basis- preis               1.039,310
Knock-Out schwelle   1.070,000
Bez.- Verh.               0,010
Fällig-keit         open end  

Geld   in
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-10 03:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
黄老泻 发表于 2012-8-10 02:43 PM
不做澳颇深,就没有指望超过巴菲特那个老不死的了。

你做了也白做。。

巴菲特是那个时代的标志。
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发表于 2012-8-10 03:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2012-8-10 04:47 PM
你做了也白做。。

巴菲特是那个时代的标志。

在它咽气盖棺之前超过它,就可以成为新时代的新标致。
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