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FED 's OT2 today 提前打响了

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发表于 2011-9-13 10:07 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-13 23:19 编辑

k, FED 急了 , OT2 今天暗中提前启动了
发表于 2011-9-13 10:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
What do you mean?
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发表于 2011-9-14 12:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
xiamao 发表于 2011-9-13 20:07
k, FED 急了 , OT2 今天暗中提前启动了

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-14 06:31 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-14 07:33 编辑

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K, 俺自己figure out 的,  全世界独家新闻,
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-14 11:48 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-14 12:51 编辑

now confirmed , bull  OT2 dream becomes true,

go bulls
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-15 01:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-15 14:32 编辑

haha,  now , everyday OT2,   from 10:30am - 2:30pm


这个OT2威力比QE1 QE2 还厉害, 基本是恐龙级的,能把大小熊熊赶尽杀绝, 斩尽杀绝
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发表于 2011-9-15 02:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-9-15 03:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
老大。。。希望以后发贴有些根据,使人能够明白,那样也可以帮助人。口号的不要。你的明白?

要不然贴子就会被沉底了。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-15 04:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-15 17:38 编辑

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楚人和氏得玉璞楚山中,奉而献之厉王。厉王使玉人相之,玉人日:‘石也。'王以和为诳,而刖其左足。及厉王薨,武王即位,和又奉其璞而献之武王。武王使玉人相之,又曰:‘石也。'王又以和为诳,而刖其右足。武王薨,文王即位,和乃抱其璞而哭于楚山之下,三日三夜,泪尽而继之以血。王闻之,使人问其故,曰:‘天下之刖者多矣,子奚哭之悲也丶和日:‘吾非悲刖也,悲夫宝玉而题之以石,贞士而名之以诳,此吾所以悲也。'王乃使玉人理其璞而得宝焉,遂命日“和氏之壁'。

俺把价值连城的FED已提前出兵OT2通告给HT, 但HTer说俺是口号瞎扯蛋,  K!
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发表于 2011-9-15 04:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 shoujie 于 2011-9-15 16:49 编辑
xiamao 发表于 2011-9-15 16:32
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楚人和氏得玉璞楚山中,奉而献之厉王。厉王使玉人相之,玉人日:‘石也。'王以和为 ...


谁敢说你“瞎扯蛋”俺们就警告。。。不过,你这个OT2是啥东东?读者看不明白。这一嗓子总的有点根据吧。

你如果说的跟 3Q说的是一回事,起码3Q的出处什么的都有了,也使人明白。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-15 05:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-15 18:45 编辑

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其实都明白即使俺喊破嗓子再明白也没用,熊还是要熊, 牛还是要牛,  无怨无悔, 本性宿命难移, 星星那末出色,都不能跳出这个怪圈

NND, 现在看来俺的反应还是比FED出兵的日期晚了一天,
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发表于 2011-9-15 05:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-9-15 05:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 oldpigwang 于 2011-9-15 18:45 编辑

Welcome to OT2
OT2 is a bonsai collection management software for *nix systems and windows, it helps you to manage your trees, your pots and your pictures.

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发表于 2011-9-15 05:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
oldpigwang 发表于 2011-9-15 17:39
Welcome to OT2

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发表于 2011-9-15 05:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
HaHa, manage your trees, your pots and your pictures.
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发表于 2011-9-15 05:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
xiamao 发表于 2011-9-15 17:24
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其实都明白即使俺喊破嗓子再明白也没用,熊还是要熊, 牛还是要牛,  无怨无悔, 本 ...

俺蒜明白了

原来是那啥碰到死耗子
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发表于 2011-9-15 05:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 bubuliao 于 2011-9-15 18:55 编辑

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作者是指买入长期国债卖出短期以压低长期利率吧, operation twist,  so-called OT
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发表于 2011-9-15 05:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
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Here...


QE3 or Operation Twist 2 Coming?

[Note: The Post of the Day will be on hiatus tomorrow, returning Monday August 8.]

Board: Macro Economics

Author: notehound


I am sure that the Fed is aware we are entering what looks like another deflationary leg down in the economy. Given this turn of events, a post on ZeroHedge from a couple of months ago (citing Bill Gross and others) appears to be pretty much on target as to what Messrs. Bernanke et cie are likely to do in the next few months: take further action to "assure" frightened borrowers-to-be that interest rates will stay down for a long time - thus "theoretically" spurring borrowing and helping the moribund residential real estate market.

Below I have posted an excerpt that seems to suggest that the Fed may decide buy up all the 10-year Treasury Bonds and thus not merely manipulate, but fully control, interest rates. In other words, neither China nor any other ordinary Treasury purchaser could demand a higher yield because the Fed would simply buy up all the 10-Year debt offered with digitally-created dollars. They could do the same with the 2-year or any other maturity they pleased. Something similar in the 1960's was called "Operation Twist" - and was used to discourage the expatriation of gold.

Since just about everything that has to do with the economy is either directly or indirectly priced off the 10-year part of the curve, it stands to reason that this is the segment that matters most for the economy. The 10-year part of the curve is the oxygen tank for the market and macro backdrop, yet the Fed in its latest QE round centered its efforts more on the front- and mid- part of the curve.

Don't think for a minute that this not being discussed — Bernanke talked about embarking on such a scheme, if necessary, when he was still governor back in 2002:

Bernanke:

"Because long-term interest rates represent averages of current and expected future short-term rates, plus a term premium, a commitment to keep short-term rates at zero for some time — if it were credible — would induce a decline in longer-term rates. A more direct method, which I personally prefer, would be for the Fed to begin announcing explicit ceilings for yields on longer-maturity Treasury debt ... Lower rates over the maturity spectrum of public and private securities should strengthen aggregate demand in the usual ways and thus help to end deflation. Of course, if operating in relatively short-dated Treasury debt proved insufficient, the Fed could also attempt to cap yields of Treasury securities at still longer maturities ...

Historical experience tends to support the proposition that a sufficiently determined Fed can peg or cap Treasury bond prices and yields at other than the shortest maturities. The most striking episode of bond- price pegging occurred during the years before the Federal Reserve-Treasury Accord of 1951.

Prior to that agreement, which freed the Fed from its responsibility to fix yields on government debt, the Fed maintained a ceiling of 2-1/2 percent on long-term Treasury bonds for nearly a decade."

It looks like once again, the manipulators will ensure that risk is mispriced in a vain attempt to "fool" the frightened consumer into borrowing, consuming, building, etc.

What they don't realize is that the problem is not that the would-be borrowers fear rising interest rates, they fear the loss of a job. Someone who is working and confident that they will remain working is not afraid they will be unable to make a payment. It's the person who fears losing a job, on the other hand, won't venture to obligate himself even if the interest rate is 0%.

Likwise, an employer that is confident it will be able to maintain its sales levels and cashflows because it knows its future obligations are somewhat predictable may be willing to expand and hire additional employees. On the other hand, if that employer fears unanticipated loss in sales - or hikes in taxes, costs, overhead or red tape, he will not be motivated to hire or borrow. Even if interest rates are still absurdly low.

Pushing on a string is insanity. Merely changing the form of QE will not make it effective nor will it create jobs - as jobs are the only real cure for our ills.

I simply shake my head and say "will there never again be normally-operating markets - for debt or for anything else?"

Sheesh.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-15 10:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-15 23:15 编辑
shoujie 发表于 2011-9-15 18:50
俺蒜明白了

原来是那啥碰到死耗子


碰到了  "alpha",   then get  死耗子
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-9-16 11:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiamao 于 2011-9-16 12:58 编辑

WK, 现在满胡同, 满大街, 满世界到处都是大熊熊小熊熊, 闹熊灾了,


OT2  将把这些满山遍地的"熊瞎子"杀的尸横遍野


熊瞎子们啊熊瞎子们, 比俺瞎猫还瞎



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